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Unemployment Rising Fast-By Area-All Time High Predicted
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Its not the governments job to pay people purely keep consumer spending numbers up. Its to responsibly use taxation to create a competitive environment so we can compete in a global market.
Nonsense.
It's the role of government to provide services and infrastructure that society as a whole deem are better provided collectively, to maintain a secure and safe society for citizens to live in, to manage the macroeconomic picture, defence of the nation, etc.....
And to raise the necessary taxation to pay for those goals within the limits of economic reality.
There can be no doubt that a national unemployment rate of 10% plus is utterly untenable for any UK government, and would represent a complete failure of that government to meet it's obligations to the society that elected it.
Despite all your frothing, we are not Greece, or Spain, or any other basket case. We are the 6th or 7th biggest economy in the World, with a reserve currency and independent monetary policy.
We control our own economic destiny, and national unemployment of 10% plus is not ever going to be a part of that.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Despite all your frothing, we are not Greece, or Spain, or any other basket case. We are the 6th or 7th biggest economy in the World, with a reserve currency and independent monetary policy.
We are going to rather rapidly slip down the list if we dont grip the deficit.
We control our own economic destiny, and national unemployment of 10% plus is not ever going to be a part of that.
It is when the socialist superstate bred a generation of dossers...It's the role of government to provide services and infrastructure that society as a whole deem are better provided collectively, to maintain a secure and safe society for citizens to live in, to manage the macroeconomic picture, defence of the nation, etc.....
Within its means. Which we arent doing at the moment, hence hordes of public sector outreach facilitators getting laid off in droves, especially in the north of the country.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Doesn't remotely excuse you deliberately changing the quote to state the UK instead of Northern Ireland in your OP, and then post it all under a completely untrue thread title.
If you don't want to come across as a devious little liar, then don't act like one.
A typical leftie will never let the truth stand in the way of a good spin (or that they consider to be one). The end justifies the means. One thing that the right has in its favour is that so many lefties are so plain stupid.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
RightyTighties and LoonyLefties? that's all a bit LastDecade and Passe' isn't it? Let's stay right on track shall we? Ref the breadth of the report and included factors,you'll have to ask the CEBR report writers about that - they are the experts! They predict rising unemployment for almost all of the UK - they cannot make predictions without taking all the factors you mention into account.0
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What do you think the counter-effect will be of very low gas prices?
What low gas prices, they will not tumble in Europe like they have in the USA or even stay steady? The cost to extract will be high and the wholesale market in Europe is headed one way only.As we are told gas is only 50% of the bill , even if wholesales prices did fall I doubt it will impact the final bill, they will just hoover up the surplus for some other spurious green initiative."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
DecentLivingWage wrote: »RightyTighties and LoonyLefties? that's all a bit LastDecade and Passe' isn't it? Let's stay right on track shall we? Ref the breadth of the report and included factors,you'll have to ask the CEBR report writers about that - they are the experts! They predict rising unemployment for almost all of the UK - they cannot make predictions without taking all the factors you mention into account.
But it's still only a prediction.
Back in 2005 the CEBR were predicting that house prices would continue to rise throughout the years, 2006, 2007, and 2008. Oops!
The one thing that can be said with certainty about economic predictions is that most of them turn out to be wrong.0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »One thing that the right has in its favour is that so many lefties are so plain stupid.
Sorry to ruin your day, but actually, it's the right that attracts a higher share of stupid people.
Low IQ has been definitively linked with an increased tendency towards conservative social values, racism/prejudice, and right wing political beliefs.
Or as the authors of the research put it....Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice.
There is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.
"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Sorry to ruin your day, but actually, it's the right that attracts a higher share of stupid people.
Low IQ has been definitively linked with an increased tendency towards conservative social values, racism/prejudice, and right wing political beliefs.
Or as the authors of the research put it....
http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html
I think that Socialism attracts people that are intellectually arrogant; that think that they know better than The Market and better than the Little People how money should be spent. I think the idea works thus:
The Little People waste their money on cigarettes and Sky TV and beer. Surely it's better that We take their money and spend it on worthy things such as art and babies and redistributing income. We Socialists know what things are worth. The Market doesn't have our moral focus and vision. We can decide what is fair and what is not, We can create better outcomes for all except the minority groups who must pay for it and pay they must because their group isn't the group we deem worthy and We are The Socialists who know who is worthy and is given the money and who is not worthy and must pay the taxes to keep our utopia alive.
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Think what you like but trying to pass off regional figures as national is pretty dumb. In fact posting all these left-wing claptrap threads of a forum like this is pretty dumb altogether.
The article quoted is addressing examples of extremist views like racism, and of course the lefties like to paint everybody right of centre as extremist and racist. In my view there is nothing more stupid than a Marxist -- clinging on to a totally, abjectly failed, discredited, outdated, and preposterous excuse for a political and economic doctrine.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
But it's still only a prediction.
Back in 2005 the CEBR were predicting that house prices would continue to rise throughout the years, 2006, 2007, and 2008. Oops!
The one thing that can be said with certainty about economic predictions is that most of them turn out to be wrong.
You make an interesting point. The trouble with it that predictions influence the mood of voters/consumers. Frighetened broke voters don't spend - too scared to spend for fear it's their job next. So let's narrow it down shall we? Let's just debate the next quarters unemployment rise as figs will be out soon, and it's not looking good!0
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