Cameron Constituency Food Bank Faces Closure As Local Economy Stalls

RevolvingDoor

I worry about the people on this forum sometimes as they seem to live in a bubble and have no clue what the less fortunate people are going through. I had a night out in Central London the other night and as I was making my way home I saw a queue of rough sleepers lining up at a church obviously waiting for a hot meal or shelter for the night. Despite London being a wealthy place there are many people who live with very little money and to label these people lazy or workshy is so insensitive and heartless. Many young people are homeless as they are forced to leave home because of abuse.

gravitytolls wrote: »

We have a foodbank in our area ~ middle class, primarily, seemingly affluent, but poverty is well hidden and some of our towns have a higher rate of childhood poverty than many deprived areas.
Anyhoo, I asked our Priest about the numbers using the foodbank and he told me that it is well organised by the Trussel Trust, that families and individuals are referred by social services and other agencies and most have had a benefit change or stoppage with no warning and nothing in place to aid them whilst being moved to other benefits. Some are new to the area having been moved due to domestic circumstances and work/benefits have not yet been sorted. Some are new to the country and await financial support. And some, which hadn't been anticipated, are rough sleepers, for whom the problems are more acute as they are unable to heat canned foods, microwave packaged food etc., and require specialist food support. There are a growing number of rough sleepers, those with mental health or addiction issues who've been unable to remain housed, those who've fallen on hard times, perhaps newly separated, and have been unable to get housing help.
I hope this answers your question and reassures you that the hard done by tax payer isn't being quite so royally robbed as the government and media would have you believe.

:T Good points!

BertieUK

ILW wrote: »

Tell me any group with talent, gumption and work ethic that are excluded from making a good living in the UK.
Most just prefer to make excuses.

I just hope that your bubble does not burst because you will be in for a big shock, as for excuses, we hear them every day from the talented Eaton boys.

kabayiri

ILW wrote: »

Anyone in the UK can get rich if they have the talent, gumption and work ethic to do it. The vast majority do not.

Anyone, perhaps.

Everyone, impossible.

The structure of our society needs people at all layers. The people behind Wonga and all the other PDL companies need people who are poor/poorly informed/desperate to make them their money.

There has always been a poor chunk in our society and there always will.

BobQ

ILW wrote: »

You need to look closer to home and ask yourself why you never got the 4x4 and all the trimmings.
I know plenty of "working class" people who seem to have all the things that you seem to think are reserved for those with inherited wealth.

It must be difficult for you to comprehend that having a 4X4 may be a status symbol to some but many ordinary working people who can afford a 4X4 (like myself) choose not to buy one for the obvious reason that unless you work on a farm etc they only serve to show the selfishness of the owner.

BobQ

Jennifer_Jane wrote: »

And finally, I do welcome the return of the Labour Party in 2015. I hope they bring back free swimming, free laptops, plenty of benefits, lots of immigrants, entry into the Euro (which is what will happen with Labour eventually), high-earning Public Sector managers mis-managing public services into the ground, schools with 50% of people going to university for media studies and the like, take us into illegal wars. Let's also remember Labour did nothing about the mixed wards, MRSA, and C. Difficile. They sold off the gold, reduced private pensions and savings by taxing dividends, increased the tax burden for the poorest.

After all, I don't have children who will inherit the debt.

I think Labour will probably return to a small majority position due to a variety of circumstances not least the way the LibDems have performed. Clegg has managed to moderate the Tories. But he had the choice of doing so while retaining his principles or of doing so "in government". For that choice he will be punished.

Labour will not fair much better unless some of their policies change, but some of your comments are unjustified.

Labour had plenty of opportunities to take us into the Euro and chose not to do so, there is no reason to beleive this will change. If it does I think it will be a very different Euro confined to a small subset of the EU.

I think your comments about excessive higher public sector salaries are ironic, given that next year the NHS reforms will see hundereds of NHS managers made redundant via very generous severance packages only to be reemployed doing a similar job planning more privatisation of the service probably on higher salaries.

As to MRSA Labour did not invent it and it has been declining since well before the demise of the last government so you cannot argue they failed to address it based on fact.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/NewsCentre/NationalPressReleases/2010PressReleases/100319MRSA/

BertieUK

BobQ wrote: »

It must be difficult for you to comprehend that having a 4X4 may be a status symbol to some but many ordinary working people who can afford a 4X4 (like myself) choose not to buy one for the obvious reason that unless you work on a farm etc they only serve to show the selfishness of the owner.

BobQ I think that many of these 4x4 owners like to think that this vehicle places them, up a couple of rungs on the social ladder, so it makes them look as though they are successful in their lives, truth is many of them cannot park the beasts thats why you see them parked on the pavements.

I passed my test on a 4x4 in 1958 while I was working on a farm, in those days they were known as an 'off road vehicle and should be that way today.

CLAPTON

there are large expensive 4x4s
there are small cheap 4x4s
there are large but medium priced 4x4s
indeed there are lots of type, sizes shapesand prices for 4x4s

indeed just like cars in general

maybe the fault is in the eyes of the beholder

BertieUK

RevolvingDoor wrote: »

I worry about the people on this forum sometimes as they seem to live in a bubble and have no clue what the less fortunate people are going through. I had a night out in Central London the other night and as I was making my way home I saw a queue of rough sleepers lining up at a church obviously waiting for a hot meal or shelter for the night. Despite London being a wealthy place there are many people who live with very little money and to label these people lazy or workshy is so insensitive and heartless. Many young people are homeless as they are forced to leave home because of abuse.



:T Good points!

Thank goodness for people like yourself who do not jump to conclusions, like many do, when seeing such a sad sight as you quote, if we knew what had brought them to this juncture in their lives we would probably be reduced to tears and would see things differently.

There will always be a percentage of those who have been like this from their youth, it would be nice if these people who use these insensitive and heartless remarks could spend a little time understanding why they ended in this unfortunate way.

Would be nice a member of Government would spend a few days with these people, then they may might just put their brains into gear before opening their mouths.

ChiefGrasscutter

ILW wrote: »

Tell me any group with talent, gumption and work ethic that are excluded from making a good living in the UK.
Most just prefer to make excuses.

Well I can think of a few:

Scientific research particularly pharma is probably one - they need to go
abroad.

Made redundant senior executives is another - over qualified and over skilled which is why they get mega payoff's as the probability of them finding work again at their level is often quite remote.

Nuclear engineers might be another group since this sector has been run down over the years to next to nothing or sold off to the French.

Fella

leveller2911 wrote: »

I think you will find the Liberals destroyed themselves, they sold themselves to the highest bidder.

They sold themselves to the only bidder. By all accounts Brown couldn't even bring himself to be civil to Clegg when he rung him up.

Unfortunately for the Tories the Libs have demonstrated just how treacherous they are. They went into partnership with the Tories purely to get a taste of power even though in pretty much every respect they are far more closely alligned with Labour. Most of the time you'd be forgiven for thinking that the Libs are in opposition, not in coalition, the way they criticise every attempt to reign in spending.

I wonder if Cable will launch his leadership bid before or after the next election.