Cameron Constituency Food Bank Faces Closure As Local Economy Stalls

Jennifer_Jane

gravitytolls wrote: »

Some are new to the country and await financial support.

I hope this answers your question and reassures you that the hard done by tax payer isn't being quite so royally robbed as the government and media would have you believe.

That really doesn't help your case, gravitytolls.


Whilst all of this is really, truly, terribly sad, it does seem from your post as though some of this is self-inflicted (drugs, alcohol, etc), and I have most sympathy with women with children who have to leave awful relationships (although in that I also believe women should be more discerning as to who they have children with, and that systems for men to pay up should be much more stringent and effective).

Linking through the Mirror story, was a woman who had resigned from her job, only one person in the family had been working, and yet she resigned, and now she's unabe to get another job. For her I have little sympathy. She made a stupid choice.

For her family, now living in desperate circumstances - they will survive. I've also lived in flats when I was a child with water coming down the walls and icing up on the inside. It's sad for them especially because of the parents' poor choices, but they will survive.

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BertieUK - you go on about millionaires - but many of my friends also believe that people need to take more responsibility for their lives, and that the benefits system has been rather too generous. My pre-tax income is just about £1,000 a month.

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And finally, I do welcome the return of the Labour Party in 2015. I hope they bring back free swimming, free laptops, plenty of benefits, lots of immigrants, entry into the Euro (which is what will happen with Labour eventually), high-earning Public Sector managers mis-managing public services into the ground, schools with 50% of people going to university for media studies and the like, take us into illegal wars. Let's also remember Labour did nothing about the mixed wards, MRSA, and C. Difficile. They sold off the gold, reduced private pensions and savings by taxing dividends, increased the tax burden for the poorest.

After all, I don't have children who will inherit the debt.

BertieUK

Jennifer I think that you have left yourself wide open and you should take cover.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit in my book.

If Labour win the next General Election with their present policies we will all have a greater problem than we have with this lot.

Just a pity the the Liberal Party have been almost distroyed by the Tories.

There are faults on both sides but I think that the Tories head the league with fault points.

And as for millionaires many lock themselves behing closed gates and do not know what goes on in the real world, or even around their own neighbourhood.

leveller2911

BertieUK wrote: »

Just a pity the the Liberal Party have been almost distroyed by the Tories.

I think you will find the Liberals destroyed themselves, they sold themselves to the highest bidder.

Moby

Generali wrote: »

I'm not sure why these food banks are required.

I worked out how my circumstances would have changed if I was made unemployed earning £30,000, my gross annual salary at the hedge fund. I'd have lost about £4,000 of my net income, falling from £23,000/year to £19,000/year. I'd have had to trim my costs but not by much. Once you take off the annual season ticket (£2,400 a year IIRC) I'd only be about £1,600 a year worse off = £31/week. I probably used to spend more than that in the pub!

So why are people starving and needing to turn to charity for food? I don't get it. The only possible explanation I can think of is that they borrowed to consume during the boom times and so are trying to pay back debt as well as paying their way, I can see that would be impossible to do. More than a grand or so of credit card debt and no offsetting savings would be a big problem.

Every time it is the !!!!less poor's fault for their predicament....unbelievable!

Moby

gravitytolls wrote: »

Because they're not!

We have a foodbank in our area ~ middle class, primarily, seemingly affluent, but poverty is well hidden and some of our towns have a higher rate of childhood poverty than many deprived areas.

Anyhoo, I asked our Priest about the numbers using the foodbank and he told me that it is well organised by the Trussel Trust, that families and individuals are referred by social services and other agencies and most have had a benefit change or stoppage with no warning and nothing in place to aid them whilst being moved to other benefits. Some are new to the area having been moved due to domestic circumstances and work/benefits have not yet been sorted. Some are new to the country and await financial support. And some, which hadn't been anticipated, are rough sleepers, for whom the problems are more acute as they are unable to heat canned foods, microwave packaged food etc., and require specialist food support. There are a growing number of rough sleepers, those with mental health or addiction issues who've been unable to remain housed, those who've fallen on hard times, perhaps newly separated, and have been unable to get housing help.

I hope this answers your question and reassures you that the hard done by tax payer isn't being quite so royally robbed as the government and media would have you believe.

Excellent post that put's the tory's on here to shame!

ILW

BertieUK wrote: »

It is quite obvious that you certainly live a different lifestyle to what I have been accustomed to otherwise common sense would prevail. You cant spend what you have not got.

I for one do not like being in debt so perhaps that is why a 4x4 never appeared on my shopping list as the welfare of my family came first.

May you all have a very Merry Christmas from whatever lifestyle you may come from.

I doubt my lifestyle is much different to yours.
The difference is that I do not blame someone who has more than I do.
If the miilionaire down the road had not made his fortune, it would not have made me any better off.
Most of us have had chances and the opportunity to make wrong a right decisions. We just need to accept the consequences.
The exception I would make to this view is paying public sector execs high salaries for failure. (BBC).

Moby

ILW wrote: »

I doubt my lifestyle is much different to yours.
The difference is that I do not blame someone who has more than I do.
If the miilionaire down the road had not made his fortune, it would not have made me any better off.
Most of us have had chances and the opportunity to make wrong a right decisions. We just need to accept the consequences.

Simplistic I'm afraid...ever heard anyone becoming rich off the cheap labour of others....happens every day all over the world and people like you allow this injustice to grow because you talk rubbish about the politics of envy. Its about EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY and we don't have it in the UK.

ILW

Moby wrote: »

Simplistic I'm afraid...ever heard anyone becoming rich off the cheap labour of others....happens every day all over the world and people like you allow this injustice to grow because you talk rubbish about the politics of envy. Its about EQUALITY OF OPPORTUNITY and we don't have it in the UK.

Anyone in the UK can get rich if they have the talent, gumption and work ethic to do it. The vast majority do not.

BertieUK

ILW wrote: »

Anyone in the UK can get rich if they have the talent, gumption and work ethic to do it. The vast majority do not.

What a silly reply you have just made, I think that you must be suffering from a dreadful hangover.

I think that you live in your own Idyllic Little World

ILW

BertieUK wrote: »

What a silly reply you have just made, I think that you must be suffering from a dreadful hangover.

I think that you live in your own Idyllic Little World

Tell me any group with talent, gumption and work ethic that are excluded from making a good living in the UK.
Most just prefer to make excuses.