Do not want to apply for my own job?

Takeaway_Addict

jonesMUFCforever wrote: »

This is a really unfair comment.
If you are employed by a company you accrue rights as per your contract of employment - if you work there for say 30 years you can accrue redundancy of about 100 weeks pay!
It is not greed but a right SHOULD the company make you redundant.

If you are wanting to leave and it may not happen then you should look at compromising with the employer, being greedy may end up with the OP staying in employment when they don't want to.

Sambucus_Nigra

GoneToo wrote: »

I am in a selection group of 10 at risk of redundancy because company is downsizing to 8 jobs. I was only one that applied for voluntary redundancy but was turned down because I am oldest with longest service = highest cost.

Now i have been told i must fill in application form for selection process for 8 jobs I am thinking if i refuse to submit a form then I could be sacked for gross misconduct. But what if i write a poor application to score lower than my colleagues and so get selected for compulsory redundancy?

What will happen to those that don't get the jobs?

getmore4less

jonesMUFCforever wrote: »

This is a really unfair comment.
If you are employed by a company you accrue rights as per your contract of employment - if you work there for say 30 years you can accrue redundancy of about 100 weeks pay!
It is not greed but a right SHOULD the company make you redundant.

statutory is a lot less than that

The maximum you can accrue is 20 years service at 1.5 weeks per year capped as £430 for each week

Yo get that you need 20 years and be at least 61

jonesMUFCforever

getmore4less wrote: »

statutory is a lot less than that

The maximum you can accrue is 20 years service at 1.5 weeks per year capped as £430 for each week

Yo get that you need 20 years and be at least 61

Company schemes are usually more generous.
I was quoting one for the company I work for.:cool:

lemontart

getmore4less wrote: »

I would be asking why they need an application form to do the selection process don't they know the people allready, are they using any other criteria like attendance sick etc. what are they. Having refused VR have they allready decided you are staying and just going through the motions.

Also use the consultaion to find out what the jobs left will be like , is it cost cutting so every one ends up doing more or a genuine downturn in the amount of work, what happens if things pick up.

I had to apply for and jump through hoops as well as interview for my own job to get perm contract which I failed to get, and the fact I was already doing it well and have been for several years was not a factor as all based on interview alone

anamenottaken

getmore4less wrote: »

statutory is a lot less than that

The maximum you can accrue is 20 years service at 1.5 weeks per year capped as £430 for each week

Yo get that you need 20 years and be at least 61

Just as a point of information:

If the OP were to be dismissed on the grounds of redundancy after 1 February 2013, the weekly cap will have increased to £450.

(New rate included in SI 2012 No. 3007)

GoneToo

Thanks for all your contributions. This has been useful. I am going to suggest a compromise agreement. Getting most of my statutory + company enhancements would be better than getting none.

dktreesea

OP, maybe take a look at this site:

https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/being-selected-for-redundancy

I note it says:

"Reapplying for your own job
You might be asked to reapply for your own job, which could help your employer decide who to select.
If you don’t apply or you’re unsuccessful in your application, you’ll still have a job until your employer makes you redundant."

SarEl

dktreesea wrote: »

OP, maybe take a look at this site:

https://www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/being-selected-for-redundancy

I note it says:

"Reapplying for your own job
You might be asked to reapply for your own job, which could help your employer decide who to select.
If you don’t apply or you’re unsuccessful in your application, you’ll still have a job until your employer makes you redundant."

Gosh. So it does say that. No wonder ACAS can't get it right if the government can't get their own laws rights! If you refuse to apply / compete for a position which is a suitable alternative (and this appears to be) the employer is entitled to take this as a resignation and refuse redundancy payments. And that is what the law actually says!

dktreesea

SarEl wrote: »

Gosh. So it does say that. No wonder ACAS can't get it right if the government can't get their own laws rights! If you refuse to apply / compete for a position which is a suitable alternative (and this appears to be) the employer is entitled to take this as a resignation and refuse redundancy payments. And that is what the law actually says!

Are you sure? Do you have a link?

As I understand it, if you don't apply, then the employer will have to make you redundant. Your non application for another job can't be used to say that therefore you have resigned.