Another Parking Eye victim

ringking_2

I have received a fine from Parking Eye yesterday 19th Dec.
In the usual way stating £ 70.00 fine,Pay up within 14 days of issue date reduced to £40.00.What makes me concerned is the issue date was originally 11/12/2012, then changed to 14/12/2012,but the notice of fine didn't arrive until 19/12/2012.
The comments on MSE are reassuring about ingnoring all communication from them and not to pay the fine but has the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 made any difference to Parking Eye persuing fines

Stroma

They are NOT fines !!! No private company can issue fines or penalties. Parasite Eye are scammers that should be ignored if the vehicle is yours, don't appeal don't communicate with them. They will crawl back under their rock in due course. You also ignore the debt collectors they use, they are cretinous urchins who have no legal power to do anything.

Enjoy Christmas enjoy keeping your money

Coupon-mad

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/57143257#Comment_57143257

HTH

Half_way

See Stomas post, its not a fine, and you are not a victim, as you appear to have read up on these private parking companys, now go out there and tell your freinds and those who you work with.

27col

Not sure why you call yourself a victim. Just ignore everything they send. You are only a victim if you let yourself be one.

The_Slithy_Tove

ringking wrote: »

What makes me concerned is the issue date was originally 11/12/2012, then changed to 14/12/2012,but the notice of fine didn't arrive until 19/12/2012.

Why is that so concerning? As if a few days difference in dates makes any odds to an unenforceable ticket.

ringking wrote: »

The comments on MSE are reassuring about ingnoring all communication from them and not to pay the fine but has the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 made any difference to Parking Eye persuing fines

So, you managed to find out that the best policy is to ignore by searching/reading around the forum, so how on earth did you manage to miss the reams and reams of posts concerning the PoFA, and how it makes no difference at all?

There is a lot of misinformation around concerning the Protection of Freedoms Act. This is largely pedalled by the private parking companies in an attempt to add some kind of legitimacy to their charges, not helped by sloppy and lazy journalism which regurgitates what the parking companies say without checking if it's true or not.

Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 introduces the concept of Keeper Liability for private parking charges if the registered keeper fails to divulge who the driver was. That is all.

• It does not make parking charges enforceable (or any more enforceable than they were before, which, on the whole is not enforceable at all)

• It does not require the registered keeper to name the driver on request - there is no obligation. If the keeper fails to name the driver, the "liability" (such as it is) reverts to the keeper (see previous point). If the driver and keeper are the same person, then there is no difference anyway.

• It does not set out any kind of statutory framework for parking charges, they are still based on contract law or trespass, and in that respect nothing has changed

• It does not define the wording that must be used to make parking charge notices "legal", "enforceable" or "valid". The Act sets out wording and points that must be included in order for the parking company to be able to apply keeper liability, but using all the correct words does not make the notice any more legally enforceable than it was before (see point 1)

The only thing the Protection of Freedoms Act does is remove from the registered keeper the defence of "I was not the driver." That was always a weak argument. There are far stronger arguments which make such parking charges invalid, all of which still stand.

edward123

ringking wrote: »

I have received a fine from Parking Eye yesterday 19th Dec.
In the usual way stating £ 70.00 fine,Pay up within 14 days of issue date reduced to £40.00.What makes me concerned is the issue date was originally 11/12/2012, then changed to 14/12/2012,but the notice of fine didn't arrive until 19/12/2012.
The comments on MSE are reassuring about ingnoring all communication from them and not to pay the fine but has the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 made any difference to Parking Eye persuing fines

Just one thing, two things, to add. First, now you are cognisant that these tickets can and should be ignored for what they are, scams to part you from your money, it would be good to spread the word to family, friends, colleagues and other strange folk ( ) as the more know about the unenforceability of these fake tickets the better.
Secondly, when you next hear from Parking Eye revisit this very thread and tell us and keep us up to date. This will prove ignoring works. Which it does. But the more people say it has the more people will follow suit and the less money goes into the PPC's coffers.

ringking_2

Thanks to all who replied to my plight and special thanks to The Slithy Tove for explaining the Freedoms Act and I will keep you informed on further letters from PE

NotanIdiot

ringking wrote: »

has the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 made any difference

Yes.

before, you used to just ignore them.

Now you can ask for a POPLA code, appeal and itll cost them £32, then you ignore them.

ringking_2

got a reminder notice exactly same as 1st notice sent, I will be ingnoring it following your recommendations:p

edward123

ringking wrote: »

got a reminder notice exactly same as 1st notice sent, I will be ingnoring it following your recommendations:p

Thanks for update. Update us more when the time arrives to do so.