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  • tyllwyd
    tyllwyd Posts: 5,496 Forumite
    edited 21 December 2012 at 12:29PM
    plum2002 wrote: »
    So if she sells say, her car - that's a revenue stream? or bundles of outgrown kids clothes for a couple of quid, that's a revenue stream? Because I've done both of those and never declared it on my tax return

    No, if she sells her car or her kids old clothes neither of those are revenue streams. But if she is buying up cars or clothes and selling those on a regular basis then it is probably trading. It can be a bit of a grey area, it depends on what exactly she is doing.
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    techspec wrote: »
    Troll or not - th op as not stated if its their own stuff or buying to sell.

    Without that info your points are null and void.

    Someone asked if she needed to declare £10 of premium bonds.Everyone said no - don't be silly. I said yes, you should.

    She still blames me for the fact that the £10 premium bond held up her claim for 6 weeks, as the clowns at the DWP wanted photocopies, statements, receipt for purchase etc. Its not always best being upfront about small things.

    This was quite incorrect, unless she had 5990+ of other savings.
  • Icequeen99
    Icequeen99 Posts: 3,775 Forumite
    sorcerer wrote: »
    Selling something on ebay is not earning, if you bought it and sold it at a profit, then it goes against your captial gains tax, but would not be considered as income. Off course the oppostite occurs if u made a loss.

    A different story however when it comes from income from stocks and shares, those are earnings.

    Of course you can have trading income (earnings) from Ebay. HMRC have just done a campaign to find people who are not declaring online income.

    See http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/selling/examples.htm for example

    IQ
  • techspec
    techspec Posts: 4,464 Forumite
    rogerblack wrote: »
    This was quite incorrect, unless she had 5990+ of other savings.

    This was her only savings - thats why i said clowns.

    Clearly they thought she might have a whole stash of premiun bonds.
  • soolin
    soolin Posts: 74,129 Ambassador
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    sorcerer wrote: »
    Selling something on ebay is not earning, if you bought it and sold it at a profit, then it goes against your captial gains tax, but would not be considered as income. Off course the oppostite occurs if u made a loss.

    A different story however when it comes from income from stocks and shares, those are earnings.

    If only that were true!

    I buy stock and sell on eBay and can assure you that HMRC are happy to take tax and NI from me As they do from any other business.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    tyllwyd wrote: »
    I agree with the posters who says it depends on whether the OP is selling a few of her secondhand possessions or whether she is running a small online business. If she is trading, she needs to think about registering as self employed, paying class 2 NI (if she is above the threshold) and doing a self-assessment tax return.
    I too agree with this.
    If you are selling something that you bought with the intention of selling it, it is income.
    If you are selling your own stuff that you no longer want, it's not income.

    Money in paypal counts as capital.
  • I don't think I will tell them, I dont understand tax returns and stuff, I'm just buying stuff frum car boot sales and buying cheap stuff from ebay then resellin them and makin money. It isnot regular so cannot reliy on it for income so i dont want to complikate things.

    ps. there are a lot of fuddy duddies on here who need to chilax a bit and stop takin life so serious.
  • john539
    john539 Posts: 16,968 Forumite
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    Easier not to go out front door & do anything !
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    I don't think I will tell them, I dont understand tax returns and stuff, I'm just buying stuff frum car boot sales and buying cheap stuff from ebay then resellin them and makin money. It isnot regular so cannot reliy on it for income so i dont want to complikate things.

    ps. there are a lot of fuddy duddies on here who need to chilax a bit and stop takin life so serious.
    You're right...why bother. Good luck in your business.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • techspec
    techspec Posts: 4,464 Forumite
    I don't think I will tell them, I dont understand tax returns and stuff, I'm just buying stuff frum car boot sales and buying cheap stuff from ebay then resellin them and makin money. It isnot regular so cannot reliy on it for income so i dont want to complikate things.

    ps. there are a lot of fuddy duddies on here who need to chilax a bit and stop takin life so serious.

    Yep defo a business and defo taxable. If you don't make much - you may not have much or any tax to pay anyway.
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