When my dad was my age he owned a four-bed semi - so why am I still in a rented dump?

N1AK

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Working hard increases the possibility of being successful.

He does have a point. Yes to be successful without working hard is difficult. That said, I know plenty of people who work hard in low paying roles who will never get anywhere because they aren't planning their career etc. Being a really hard working shelf stacker doesn't get you to general manager, especially if the company already sees you as not being management material.

Thrugelmir

N1AK wrote: »

He does have a point. Yes to be successful without working hard is difficult. That said, I know plenty of people who work hard in low paying roles who will never get anywhere because they aren't planning their career etc. Being a really hard working shelf stacker doesn't get you to general manager, especially if the company already sees you as not being management material.

Organisations are on the whole pyramid structures. So at every level opportunities become more and more restricted. There's plenty more hours in a week after the day job is done. If an individual has the aspiration and desire to do achieve something.

ruggedtoast

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Organisations are on the whole pyramid structures. So at every level opportunities become more and more restricted. There's plenty more hours in a week after the day job is done. If an individual has the aspiration and desire to do achieve something.

Yes thats right, its all the fault of the individuals. Not, obviously, the individuals who didnt have to work 60 hours a week to have a normal life, the baby boomers; but the people who are young now.

johnny_storm

The young and intelligent should be working on their escape plan.

Otherwise they will just end up paying for someone else to have a nice home, while they have none, for a generous pension, while they will get the bare minimum to live.

Get out while you still can.

adouglasmhor

ukcarper wrote: »

If you think all those people pulling levers earned high wages and were able buy a nice house it is obvious how little you know.

Some of them did though.

Graham_Devon

The question I favour is this one:

To anyone who thinks it's just a case of "working hard" etc....

If you lost your house today, and had to start from scratch again, could you buy your equivalent house within a five year period?

Majority of the time, for those who are honest, the answer is no. That says it all really.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes thats right, its all the fault of the individuals. Not, obviously, the individuals who didnt have to work 60 hours a week to have a normal life, the baby boomers; but the people who are young now.

No its a choice. That every one has.

What's a normal life? I've never had a right to anything. What I've got personally is through my own endeavours. I consider myself lucky. So I try and help others less fortunate whenever I can.

ruggedtoast

Thrugelmir wrote: »

No its a choice. That every one has.

What's a normal life? I've never had a right to anything. What I've got personally is through my own endeavours. I consider myself lucky. So I try and help others less fortunate whenever I can.

If you're a boomer a considerable amount of what you have personally is down to a long benign economic cycle which saw widescale demand for British goods and services from the developing world, combined with a successive governments offering you structural benefits the bill for which you all gave to your children, just at the point the jobs all went East.

Allowing us to build a few houses so we dont have to pay you 2/3 of our net pay in rent would be a nice gesture. Apparently that is too much to ask though.

RevolvingDoor

I think it is obviously harder for young people nowadays especially trying to rent or buy a house in London and the South East and I'm saying that as someone in their thirties who was able to get a mortgage for a house in London so I don't have any particular axe to grind with regards to the older/younger generation debate.;)

andy.m_2

It is entirely the fault of the boomer parents.
They are being jolly unfair by living longer and longer and hence not carving up the family fortune until after the kids need it.