When my dad was my age he owned a four-bed semi - so why am I still in a rented dump?

Conrad

Wookster wrote: »

I wander if part of the reason we have such a consumer country in the youth is simply because the grander aims are well out of reach.

There's a poster in discussion time here who says she cannot buy in her CHOSEN locale, which happens to be now an expensive part of London.
She argues she has some kind of right to an afforable place there.

That sort of entitlment mindest would just never enter the heads of others. I get clients all the time who are very sanguine about thier budget s and move to where they can afford.

This wierd me me entitlment mindset is a very depressing feature of modern Britain. Similar to the 'everyones a winner' at scholl sports day.

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Two people not working full time is unheard of now,

Again we see entitlment mindset rear it's head here.

Women started going out to wrok. Couples thus earned more thus property prices went up.

Thats a thing called life.

!!!! happens.

In some ways we're worse off in others we're better off.

Deal with it.

Conrad

bugslet wrote: »

Not sure about finding a job 30 years ago was much harder than now. Very neatly, I am 48 and left school at 18 in 1982, when unemployment had topped 3 million. I can't remember what the figures were for youth unemployment, but I remember all the things that are said now, were said when I and my classmates left college.

You can find many generational surveys down down the decades and ALWAYS people have a bleak outlook and claim yesterday was better. It amazes me people don't check this sh111it before spouting off about how terrible tomorrow will be.

In a million years people the surveys will still say the decades before were better.

marleyboy

In my childhood we lived in a 3 story 6 bedroomed house. My Dad worked upto 15 hours a day and 7 days a week in a cement factory. My Mother worked as a cleaner.

Fast forward 30 Years, my Dad has nothing to show for it, no savings, no home ownership, he now lives in a small rented house and survives on his pension. He lost everything but gets no sympathy from me.

I am happy renting, I dont want to spend the rest of my life buying a house I will never really own outright. Both me and my partner are hard workers, I am currently bringing up our Son whilst the Mrs puts the bread on the table.

As soon as our Son is in School, I can happily go back to work and start where I left off. With both of us working full time, money should be comfortable enough for the family, but I dont think we will ever buy a property, I like the freedom in renting and the ability to move elsewhere to upgrade if and when we wished to.

I still remember my Dad telling me as a child that I would come to nothing, no prospects, no job, etc. Yet I am financially a lot better off than he could ever dream of, do quite well in my job and am quite content in all the things I have in life. I would not want it any other way.

abankerbutnotafatcat

Conrad wrote: »

There's a poster in discussion time here who says she cannot buy in her CHOSEN locale, which happens to be now an expensive part of London.
She argues she has some kind of right to an afforable place there.

That sort of entitlment mindest would just never enter the heads of others. I get clients all the time who are very sanguine about thier budget s and move to where they can afford.

This wierd me me entitlment mindset is a very depressing feature of modern Britain. Similar to the 'everyones a winner' at scholl sports day.

I posted earlier about a point in time when property became much less affordable in London anyway. I was extremely lucky and managed to buy with help from my parents in my early 20s before the steep rises occurred. My younger sister was too young to and even with more help from our parents than I got she couldn't buy anything anywhere in any of our adjoining counties. We've discussed it and she is resigned to never being able to afford anywhere. No doubt a lot of people also have the entitlement attitude you describe but there are also those who have the attitude Wookster describes.

ruggedtoast

ukcarper wrote: »

If you think all those people pulling levers earned high wages and were able buy a nice house it is obvious how little you know.

They didnt earn high wages, they earned normal wages which entitled them to a normal standard of living.

Normal wages dont entitle you to a normal standard of living any more, they entitle you to a 6 month AST and benefits to top up your income because you dont earn enough to get by on.

How hard you work simply doesnt come into it and if you think it does you are in cloud cuckoo land.

ILW

ruggedtoast wrote: »

They didnt earn high wages, they earned normal wages which entitled them to a normal standard of living.

Normal wages dont entitle you to a normal standard of living any more, they entitle you to a 6 month AST and benefits to top up your income because you dont earn enough to get by on.

How hard you work simply doesnt come into it and if you think it does you are in cloud cuckoo land.

Most of the people I know in there late twenties are buying houses or flats. This is in London. Odd thing is that none of them are graduates. Getting a degree does not fall under "hard work". Working hard on something that someone will pay you for does.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

How hard you work simply doesnt come into it and if you think it does you are in cloud cuckoo land.

Working hard increases the possibility of being successful.

Mr._Pricklepants

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Working hard increases the possibility of being successful.

Try explaining that to our resident Marxist-Leninist, Toastie, for who the concept of hard work and subsequent success is replaced by collectivist thought with no place for personal responsibility.

N1AK

moneyinmypocket wrote: »

What rubbish OP, the yoof of today have never had it so good. The older generation didn't have the latest gadgets and didn't have a holiday abroad each year, didn't blow a 100 on a night out, didn't have to have the latest clothes

They had the latest gadgets, just back then it was called a colour TV my kids may well grow up in a world where having a modern day supercomputer as a phone is normal that doesn't mean I had a tough childhood (I had no expectation of that).

I imagine spending less on a night out was easier when a pint cost the equivalent of a £1 and driving drunk was a viable alternative to getting a taxi.