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Hintza

Slither you obviously think your car is worth a lot more than the trader is. The simple solution is just to trade it privately.

motorguy

SLITHER99 wrote: »

It's an equal pegging. As I now know, they're going to say that there's major problems even when they aren't; there's also the thought in my mind that they introduce faults to get the part-ex on their side! Which as a business, they're going to do!

However, you could quite easily throw it off to auction. I'd bet the same customer netted you a lot more in straight profit than you gave for the car, surely?

Like I say, nobody is going to get rid of a perfectly functioning car, but those same guys will spend a lot more than what you'd offer part-ex on theirs. Surely, you can't begrudge the prospect that you may take a car in on part-ex and there's faults with it?

To be fair, sounds like you've been dealing with a crowd of unscrupulous chancers. I'd be concerned even about buying from them if thats the tactics they apply. Most traders value a car as fairly as they can, though of course theres scope for an element of knocking the trade in a bit to get the price down. A lot of customers are a lot more 'savvy' now and know what their car is worth, so most times you have to go the extra to get the deal done - or do no deals at all. Therefore you're losing any 'safety zone' you might otherwise have built into the deal.

No they bought a car at a couple of grand (a low miles '05 Megane 1.4) so there was only a couple of hundred net in it.

RE: auctions, firstly the price of something like that in auction was about £400, so theres a £300 loss, plus fees of £70, plus you wait near a fortnight for your money as they take a week to send you the cheque and then a week to clear. Oh, and if its bought by one of their 'gold card' buyers he can bring it back and they'll cancel the transaction rather than offend him.

Theres noone expects a £500-£800 car to be perfect, i just try to price accordingly. Likewise you dont expect to find any terminal faults with the car either at the time or the day after.

SLITHER99

pgilc1 wrote: »

To be fair, sounds like you've been dealing with a crowd of unscrupulous chancers. I'd be concerned even about buying from them if thats the tactics they apply. Most traders value a car as fairly as they can, though of course theres scope for an element of knocking the trade in a bit to get the price down. A lot of customers are a lot more 'savvy' now and know what their car is worth, so most times you have to go the extra to get the deal done - or do no deals at all. Therefore you're losing any 'safety zone' you might otherwise have built into the deal.

No they bought a car at a couple of grand (a low miles '05 Megane 1.4) so there was only a couple of hundred net in it.

RE: auctions, firstly the price of something like that in auction was about £400, so theres a £300 loss, plus fees of £70, plus you wait near a fortnight for your money as they take a week to send you the cheque and then a week to clear. Oh, and if its bought by one of their 'gold card' buyers he can bring it back and they'll cancel the transaction rather than offend him.

Theres noone expects a £500-£800 car to be perfect, i just try to price accordingly. Likewise you dont expect to find any terminal faults with the car either at the time or the day after.

OK cool - different perspective.

I don't expect dealers to be crawling on their hands and knees for my gleaming classic, complete with puffs of pink flower vapor. I know my car is a high miler and getting on a bit and there's a few niggles here and there, and I fully get I'm not going to get autotrader prices for it as I can't be bothered with selling it privately (tyre kickers, test pilots, etc). So I figure what you lose by part-exing, you gain by not having to deal with that crap.

I'm just saying, it looks like I was right to be cautious. They basically invented a whole bunch of engine and drivetrain damage that doesn't exist. AND They tried to charge me an inspection fee for the privilege when I said no chance! £30 later in my local indie confirms no damage of the sort exists! Though I'm now pay £60 to put right the back suspension which they noted as "complete suspension failure".

If ONLY they let me take the printout, I'd have scanned it and put it up for y'all! As I refused to pay, they refused to give me their "diagnostic", which is fair I suppose.

nickcc

The point made re the car having a current MOT is incorrect, a current MOT only means it was roadworthy at the time it was tested.

SLITHER99

Yeah yeah - in that case why bother with MOTs at all? Surely we should all have a daily inspection?

EdGasket

Surely you don't expect a garage to pay for your car without looking at it? It could, for instance, have a blown head gasket making it worthless because of the cost of repair? Just go somewhere else to Px it that are more honest.

SLITHER99

EdGasket wrote: »

Surely you don't expect a garage to pay for your car without looking at it? It could, for instance, have a blown head gasket making it worthless because of the cost of repair? Just go somewhere else to Px it that are more honest.

Of course not, but it seems that despite trying to be honest, which I am, the bad ol' car salesman isn't! And I'm not trying to trade in for a £3k beater either; I would have thought buying a £10k Civic from a Honda dealer would have at least bought some honesty?

C_Mababejive

He really has no interest in your car. Its all part of a wider came called "how much to swap" in which he tries to extract maximum value out of the deal. Once you agree a deal with him,he'll make you think you beat him down and he will then have to "clear it with the manager". At this point he nips out for a smoke/brew/ pee and lo and behold,,the manager has ok'd it.And so it goes on....

nickcc

Yeah yeah perhaps it is your responsibility to make sure your car is roadworthy, who else would you like to blame.

mattyprice4004

SLITHER99 wrote: »

Of course not, but it seems that despite trying to be honest, which I am, the bad ol' car salesman isn't! And I'm not trying to trade in for a £3k beater either; I would have thought buying a £10k Civic from a Honda dealer would have at least bought some honesty?

How does he know your trying to be honest?

And also, while on the subject - in what way does an MOT guarantee your vehicle is roadworthy?

What if your exhaust was OK at the time of the MOT, but had rotted out 6 months later? That's potentially £150 in parts alone, a massive chunk off his profits.

It's worrying the amount of people who think just because a car has an MOT it's definitely 100% safe to drive.