Dangerous dog behaviour....solution?

walwin

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

We will breed from him which is why he still has his bits.

Please don't think I'm being rude or insulting, but whatever label he has, your dog is a mongrel, so why on earth would you want to breed from him when the country is overrun with poor dogs waiting for someone to give them a home?

heartbreak_star

Water sprayer with a dash of clove oil, or a simple mouth freshener spray. Squirt the Newfie's muzzle on approach and it should back off.

Please don't breed more pups, OP, unless they're for working use. For pets, people, please rescue.

HBS x

Hoof_Hearted

A lot of snobbery on here about cross-breeds/mongrels. Yes, we need more bulldogs that can't breathe and pure-breds with hip problems. Labradoodles are just brilliant house dogs -- intelligent, happy, non-aggressive, robust dogs with few inherited medical problems and a great temperament. They are ideal pets, if a medium size dog is preferred, and they are much in demand. In addition, some coats are non-shedding.

Another owner wants her female doodle to have one litter and there will be a queue of people wanting a pup. Not everybody wants a rescue dog -- a bit like buying a new car, some people want to know the history, particularly if they have younger children. The dog homes are full of Staffies and Staffie crosses, not doodles and other poodle crosses.

However, after his honeymoon, we probably will have him done.

Caroline_a

Not snobbery - I have 2 pedigree dogs (male) both of whom were neutered at 18 months. The puppies would have been stunning from either dog, but I leave that sort of thing to breeders who do it properly, research into the history of the dog, health check their animals, and breed a selective few litters that will improve the breed.

Of course you realise that your mongrel won't breed true?

heartbreak_star

Poodles can be nasty little things as much as Staffies can, and houses with younger children shouldn't have puppies at all...but I digress.

I don't like crossbreed snobbery either. Most purebreds don't look anything like the breed originally did

It's my personal opinion only, I do like doodles, they're working well as Guide Dogs, but I don't believe anyone should be allowed to breed puppies for pets until every shelter in Britain is empty, and nobody should be allowed to breed without a license or sell the pups for profit.

Try the sprayer though - even if the Newfie doesn't back off immediately it gives you enough time to move out of the way and gives it a "don't come too close" signal.

HBS x

heartbreak_star

Also, sadly, most people who want doodles want the cute "labrador with curly coat" F3 generation. The scruffy F1 and F2s often aren't wanted...though I'd happily take every one in the country if I had the room

HBS x

pulliptears

Someone I know purchased a ShiPoo pup and was 'reliably' informed by the breeder that they were about to become a recognised breed by the Kennel Club....

Still waiting.

Person_one

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

A lot of snobbery on here about cross-breeds/mongrels. Yes, we need more bulldogs that can't breathe and pure-breds with hip problems. Labradoodles are just brilliant house dogs -- intelligent, happy, non-aggressive, robust dogs with few inherited medical problems and a great temperament. They are ideal pets, if a medium size dog is preferred, and they are much in demand. In addition, some coats are non-shedding.

Another owner wants her female doodle to have one litter and there will be a queue of people wanting a pup. Not everybody wants a rescue dog -- a bit like buying a new car, some people want to know the history, particularly if they have younger children. The dog homes are full of Staffies and Staffie crosses, not doodles and other poodle crosses.

However, after his honeymoon, we probably will have him done.

Its nothing to do with snobbery, I'm actually in favour of responsible and caerful crossbreeding on order to deal with some of the health problems in pedigree breeds.

However, it doesn't sound as though that's what you're planning. Are you and this 'other owner' members of a 'breed' club? Do you know what health tests you'll need to do before you breed? Are you prepared to provide a permanent home for any pupies that don't sell or get returned 6 months down the line by their new owners (probably because they expecting a non shedding dog and got a shaggy hair factory)? Are you prepared for the vet costs if anything goes wrong during pregnancy or labour?

Labradoodles don't breed 'true' yet and there is such a huge variety in size, temperament, coat texture etc. that you can't generalise about them or predict what puppies will be like.

Person_one

heartbreak_star wrote: »

Poodles can be nasty little things

HBS x

Um, oi!

Any breed can be 'nasty' if it isn't treated well or socialised properly. Remember 'deed not breed'? It doesn't only apply to staffies!

krlyr

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

A lot of snobbery on here about cross-breeds/mongrels. Yes, we need more bulldogs that can't breathe and pure-breds with hip problems. Labradoodles are just brilliant house dogs -- intelligent, happy, non-aggressive, robust dogs with few inherited medical problems and a great temperament. They are ideal pets, if a medium size dog is preferred, and they are much in demand. In addition, some coats are non-shedding.

Another owner wants her female doodle to have one litter and there will be a queue of people wanting a pup. Not everybody wants a rescue dog -- a bit like buying a new car, some people want to know the history, particularly if they have younger children. The dog homes are full of Staffies and Staffie crosses, not doodles and other poodle crosses.

However, after his honeymoon, we probably will have him done.

Owner of a crossbreed here, and also pro-responsible breeding. Tell me you've done all the necessary health tests, checked the lineage on both parents' sides, and know that your dog is the best of the best health and temperamentwise, and that this breeding is being done to improve the health of the species, and you'll have my full support.
Without all of that, it's just another litter that will potentially further degenerate the overall health and temperament of the dog as a whole. It may be "just one litter" but if everyone who adopted one of the pups decided to have "just one litter", then the owner of those pups to have "just one litter", it could result in hundreds of dogs passing on potential health and behavioural issues if your dog and the potential mum have not been thoroughly vetted.

"Doodles" are not immune to ending up in rescue, if your local rescues are only full of Staffies then they're the lucky ones, you get all sorts in the rescues around me.