Any legal advice please

sho_me_da_money

Guys your help is very appreicated. I knew MSE has the main dudes with the master plan.

Basically the copper that summoned me said "i cannot give you 3 x £90 fines for the 3 offences you cimmitted (seatbelt, lights and wrong way) so i will summons you. You willhave to appear in court and plead guilty and get about a £70 fine.

It seemed liek he did the above to help me out. Just after that i called one of my mates who is a officer at the same station. He knew the PC and was trying to get ahold of him that night to see if it can be forgotten. My mate advised that if the copper follows up on his notes he will realise i do not have any insurance nor license.

The copper did the latter and i couldnt ask my mate to pull any strings as it could be potentially risking his job.

My mate has advised i do nothing until any paperwork comes through. If it does, i may get lucky as he may not even mention that i had no license or insurance and just describe the events occurred on the night. This is the best thing that could happen as i do not have to produce any documents in court.

If i get the letter and it says all the stuff ive done, then i shoudl just plead guilty and deal with it, which i quite rightly deserve and agree with,

The only credible things i have is that i have a good career, no criminal record, no similar offence, it was my first time, i have taken lessons, passed my theory and am due to take a practical test in the next month.

Now my mate said that the summosn can take a while to come through. If i pass and am a legal driver by then, does this hold any weight in advantage for me?

Also my mate said, this still may be forgotten as the copper now stands in a dilemma of knwoing he can pursue knowing im his mate or not pursue knowing im his mate. I dont have any hope so ill just stick with the worse case scenario.

dmg24

If your parents don’t make a complaint against you for taking the car then nothing further will happen on that front.

This isn't strictly true.

My brother was in this situation (though he did have his licence), and my parents did not want him charged with taking without consent. My mum went into the police station to make a statement to this effect, and was charged with allowing him to take the car without having insurance (sorry, I can't remember the specific charge)!

So it could be the case that if you are not charged with TWOCing, your parents could have an alternative charge against them.

I hope that doesn't happen, you know you were in the wrong and you are willing to accept your punishment.

Let us know how you get on x

sho_me_da_money

The reason why i will admit to driving the car without parental consent is because i do not want my parents to face anything - which i am told 100% they will if i did not admit to it.

pippamannequin

Hi,
Ok, you may get a slating but will get proper and realistic advice, there's a website called 2pass.co.uk, on it there are some great people, instructors, examiners, learners and 'boy racers' lol...
Anyway, there is also a chat room and to be honest there are probably more people on here who will give you some advice that have been in the same or similar situation to yourself, ie what to prepare for etc.,

I do hope that you realise what you did was wrong and unfortunately sometimes we have to live and learn by our mistakes, we all make them, don't worry about that, no matter how much stick you're going to get, it isn't the end of the world, you were lucky infact that no one got hurt, look at the positive side of it and learn from it.

I in all honesty mean that, take it in your stride, you did wrong, there will be a price to pay, but as my good old Dad used to say (lond gone unfortunately) 'They can't hang you'...that saying served me well..Good luck.

hobo28

sho_me_da_money wrote: »

The copper did the latter and i couldnt ask my mate to pull any strings as it could be potentially risking his job.

If i get the letter and it says all the stuff ive done, then i shoudl just plead guilty and deal with it, which i quite rightly deserve and agree with,

Seems like you've learned a lesson and pleading guilty would indeed be the honourable thing to do. You've done wrong but who here hasn't? We all make mistakes but at least your man enough to admit it and take the punishment on the chin. So many people nowadays never take responsibility for anything.

Likely outcome is points, fine and probably a ban. You'll probably be more bothered by the insurance hike in years to come. Good luck mate and again, well done for taking responsibility.

paddy's_mum

I fervently disagree with hobo28's comment that at least the OP "is man enough ... take the punishment".

If you look more closesly, you will see that he was actually doing his damnedest to pull strings with his copper friend, and his colleague, to evade responsibility/punishment.

Yes, we all do make mistakes and hopefully suffer in the appropriate degree for them as that gives a lesson in life one never forgets. However, I would be furious if someone, in the circumstances given, had injured me with what amounts to a stolen car, by their own stupidity and then got off scot free because he was able to "pull strings" so that it could all "be forgotten".

Others may disagree.

sho_me_da_money

Not to start any feud but you must be miss goody two shoes right? The one who has lived life, encountered problems and never sought advice or help.

If someone had been injured in the situation then fair enough, your comment may hold some weight however, in light of the FACTS, i made a silly mistake and am prepared to take the heat.

Its one thing to make up hyperthetical sceanrios and disagree on them but its another to change the facts.

Message: Treat each situation on its own merits.

If god can forgive a killer, then surely my neighbour can help me out when i forgot to wear a seatbelt, turn on lights and went down a one-way street.

I mean what are friends for?

If it was your son/daughter/friend in situation and you could do something to save them - you would let them take the wrap?

If so, cool, you are what is known as the term "sell-out"

hobo28

paddy's_mum wrote: »

If you look more closesly, you will see that he was actually doing his damnedest to pull strings with his copper friend, and his colleague, to evade responsibility/punishment.

Hmm, that wasn't the way I read it. I suppose only the OP will know.

My point is that he should hold his hands up, take responsibility and not try to absolve himself. On that point we all agree i think.

sho_me_da_money wrote:

If someone had been injured in the situation then fair enough, your comment may hold some weight however, in light of the FACTS, i made a silly mistake and am prepared to take the heat.

Let's be clear on one thing. We all make mistakes but yours was not a moment's foolishness. It was premeditated and I would bet its not the first time you've taken your parents car without consent. if you'd have injured someone you'd be looking at a long stretch at her majesty's pleasure.

Take the punishment, grow up and shut up.

sho_me_da_money

It was my first time and yes i will take the punishment.

Like i said YES it was a moments blur - i only moved 15 or so metres before realising i was in the wrong and stomach pains did that to me.

Lets not get carried away with hyperthetical situations, what if i was to accidentally bang into a building that had a 10 second bomb on it that blew up my city.

Stick to the facts and lets deal with them. It was a silly mistake and i was wrong for it, plain and simple. I sought aid from mates.

Core ripper, is it that much of a news flash that coppers help their mates on the inside? Im am sure people have gotten away with murder (which is wrong) and i tryed to get off the hook with foolish faults. Give me a break.

Ojh sorry i forgot i was the only one that had doodoo on my shoes. Sorry for not being perfect.

How many people out of 100 would not ask their mate to help em out had he have been a bobby?

Sorry.

Edinburghlass_2

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Rather than bump up this thread, I'm editing this earlier post of mine to say thank you to the users who posted in a frank and helpful manner to the OP and yes show_me, in my opinion, is holding up his hands and admitting his wrong doing.

This isn't the Discussion Forum where you are discussing what might have happened, the OP asked for legal advice on what actually happened.

My naughty smillie was posted to show_me regarding the OP and not his responses on this thread as he certainly isn't a nasty character and I know he will take onboard the advice given.