Labour Will Expect Immigrants To Work Hard Pay Taxes And Join In

paulmapp8306

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I know benbecular well - being as its the only range capable of firing Rapier fron in this country. I THINK I can relate to what your trying to say. A night out is certainly an ecperience ......

Wookster

Its amazing how many Labour policies have been subject to a volte face since they were voted out.

John_Pierpoint

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Lets be clear about this. What the government (whether Labour or Tory) care about is providing cheap non unionised labour to business, because that's what their friends in business care about.

They're all "talking tough" on immigration now because the economy is flatlining and there are plenty of unemployed workers willing to work for peanuts as it is.

As soon as employment picks up again and the needle starts to turn back in favour of the worker rather than the employer, we will be back to waves of immigrants out competing one another to offer the cheapest labour for the lightest contracts.

Politicians dont care about you, they dont care about your jobs or your communities or social cohesion or your kids in state school or stable employment. They care about "them", and it is "them" who decide what happens with immigration policy.

As the man from Google said - "That is capitalism".

They do care about your vote every 5 years.

Loanranger

I don't see how Labour can hope to get elected next time with such a makeweight as Miliband at the helm.
He hasn't quite grasped that for Labour to get elected again they have to buy more votes, as they did from 1997 to 2010, by massively increasing the benefits budget,....wait... they spent all the dosh last time they were in power so none left.
It amazes me that Labour still has the brass neck to stand up and criticise given that the Coalition are cleaning up their mess.

Generali

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

you are getting funnier each post Generali.

I'm sure there must be some Englishman in your area though, or at least decedants of Englishmen who were [STRIKE]deported [/STRIKE]emmigrated a couple of hundred years ago

There's a Scot and a couple of blokes from Essex (they're unconnected but if you've been to Romford you'd know why they're here).

It's funny how times change: these days it's de la mode to have a convict or two in the family although admittedly it's better that they're C19th than C21st. Preferably your Great-Great Grandad than your son.

Generali

ILW wrote: »

Probably a lot more Englishmen than native Australians.

It depends what you call a native Aussie really. We're all immigrants ultimately although some got here earlier than others.

John_Pierpoint

Not a lot of native Australians in Tasmania.

John_Pierpoint

Just shows how one can somehow get the wrong end of the stick.
I had this funny feeling that Generali was a banker of Irish extract married to a Sheila?

Isn't English law the only English thing about England, even though it evolved from Norman law which had replaced the more civilised Anglo Saxon law?
I suppose there is still a tiny fraction of the country who keep the faith with English religion?

nomoreboomandbust

Red Ed admits to Labour making mistakes about immigration from Eastern Europe, it's okay to do that as it is not racist, funnily enough no mention of all the millions coming from Asia/Africa though

Generali

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

Not a lot of native Australians in Tasmania.

It depends how you define a native Australian.

The Aboriginal Australians/Torres Strait Islanders basically walked here/floated on rafts from Indonesia so they were the original migrants but were migrants nonetheless.

Aboriginal people brought a slash and burn agriculture with them which was unsuited to Australia so they effectively turned a goodly chunk of Australia to desert.

But then the Poms arrived. They declared Australia to be Terra Nullis, land that was not owned by anyone. Then they proceeded to behave in a way that was possibly only beaten by the Belgians in The Congo for its brutality in clearing the Aboriginal people off 'their land' (actually the Aboriginals didn't have a concept of land ownership that I am aware of). That included the death one way or another of all Aboriginal peoples on Tassie.

I have a lot of sympathy with the plight of the Aboriginal peoples of Australia and would like to do my bit to help resolve the problems. Giving them double dole etc. is absolutely not the way to help. Freeing them to live in their own culture is the way forward. The way to do that while having land ownership is tricky but not impossible.