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bodmil
bodmil Posts: 931 Forumite
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  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,857 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Remember signing on ensures an NI credit. This is crucial for benefit entitlement in the future. Even in two years time, if you go off sick and dont have full NI contributions then you wont be eligible for benefits.
    NI also goes towards your State Pension.

    The job centre also have facilities to help you find a new job.
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • bodmil
    bodmil Posts: 931 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2013 at 3:04PM
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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    You are obliged to mitigate your losses especialy on notice pay, one of those is to claim JSA. so that gets taken off(even if you don't claim it) , if you get another job that get taken off.

    You might even find the pension effects the payouts, not sure on that one be interested what happens.
  • bodmil
    bodmil Posts: 931 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2013 at 3:04PM
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  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've helped Parliament
    The payments from the NI fund are benifits.

    The old option was that you become a creditor of the failed company and get nothing or proportion if there is anything left.

    Next time be more carefull who you work for and look for the signs that they are oing down.
  • bodmil wrote: »
    Is there any other way? My company went into administration last week and so I've been told that my unpaid salary and holiday pay needs to be claimed from the government pot. Because of this, I have to sign on, if I don't, any benefits I would have been entitled to are taken away from any awarded salary.

    Rightly or wrongly, I am absolutely loathing the whole process of involving the government in my financial and work affairs. I don't suppose there is there anyway to avoid this process and still be awarded my outstanding salary?

    I was in a similar situation last year and after working for 30+ years didn't relish the thought of signing on.
    I checked out what benefits i would receive - only non means tested JSA for the first six months, paid because I had made NI contributions and also how my payments from the NI fund would be affected by not signing on.

    Unpaid salary and Holiday pay - not affected as these have already been earned whilst in employment at the company now in administration.
    Redundancy pay - not affected
    Notice pay - reduced by amount of JSA whether I signed on or not. It would also be reduced if i gained employment during the notice period, six weeks in my case.

    Based on the above info I decided not to bother signing on as the "loss" to me would be six weeks of JSA which I could live with.

    Your situation may be different to mine, had I been entitled to more benefits I would possibly have decided to sign on.

    In summary you can't be forced to sign on but there is a financial penalty if you don't
  • ian103
    ian103 Posts: 883 Forumite
    like davec, i decided not to sign on as they wanted too much information for me to receive my entitlement (6 months JSA) so didn't bother signing on and fortunately another job came up within a couple of weeks, albeit part time but my JSA would have stopped.
  • real1314
    real1314 Posts: 4,432 Forumite
    bodmil wrote: »
    I'm just a bit untrusting of the government, I feel as if I'm under investigation and trying to get something out of them, when all I want is my salary! Very frustrating to have to tell them about every penny in every account and what my relationship status is simply to get my salary.

    If you want money from taxpayer funds, you have to satisfy the requirements.
    I bet you wouldn't like it if your tax payments were paid out without any proper checks being done. :cool:
  • bodmil
    bodmil Posts: 931 Forumite
    edited 10 May 2013 at 3:04PM
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  • rich11
    rich11 Posts: 184 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker

    Next time be more carefull who you work for and look for the signs that they are oing down.

    What? Does every company about to go under give distress signals? Very harsh post imo
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