Petition to the Hague. Mistreatment of sick and disabled

schrodie

rogerblack wrote: »

I don't understand your point.
The draft legislation - which I hadn't seen before, thanks - for that descriptor - requires you to be able to stand.

If you cannot stand - and someone permanently in a chair cannot - then they do not qualify under this descriptor.
They meet part f(i)


These regulations are _much_ more generous to those permanently in wheelchairs than the previous draft regulations - as even if you can win a wheelchair marathon - you are still entitled, if you cannot stand.

They may be generous to those who are permanently in wheelchairs but those people were covered in the previous descriptors. However now the government seem to have almost closed the goalposts to those people who aren't wheelchair bound but need a chair to "mobilise" any meaningful distance.

The two previous descriptors to qualify for the enhanced mobility rate were:-

Cannot move up to 50 metres without using a wheelchair propelled by the claimant. 12 points

&

Cannot move up to 50 metres without using a wheelchair propelled by another person or a motorised device. 15 points

So before if you weren't wheelchair bound you had 50m to be able to walk/move now that's gone from 50m down to 20m!

For example if your not wheelchair bound then if you can stand (aided or unaided) and then move say 3, 5 or 19 metres (with a stick or a frame) then have to get into a wheelchair to continue to move you will get 12 points! (I think)

As far as I know you could still claim HRM of DLA and compete in wheelchair marathons as DLA is/was not an out of work benefit.

JS477

schrodie wrote: »

They're already in the pipeline. Here

e.g.

Can stand and then move more than 1 metre but no more than 20 metres, either aided or unaided. 12 points

So no more wheelchairs!!!!

It's obvious the tories have put that in as the entry point to the enhanced rate for Mobility PIP to exclude as many non-wheelchair bound people from getting it as they can thus placating the daily mail anti-Motability campaign supporters and the "my neighbour gets a free car" ignoramuses.

rogerblack

JS477 wrote: »

It's obvious the tories have put that in as the entry point to the enhanced rate for Mobility PIP to exclude as many non-wheelchair bound people from getting it as they can thus placating the daily mail anti-Motability campaign supporters and the "my neighbour gets a free car" ignoramuses.

To clarify this for those who've not read the full proposals.

You need to get 12 points to be entitled to full rate mobility (the car), and 8 points for standard.

This is however in some ways fairer - before you could only gain high rate mobility if it was your ability to walk solely limiting your mobility.
Now, points are also awarded for being unable to find your way.

For example - the following people would get 12 points.

Someone who needs to use a guide dog.

Someone who can't leave the house due to anxiety, who can't walk 200m most of the time.

Someone who needs prompting to be able to undertake journeys or they become 'overwhelmingly distressed' who can walk 50m.

Someone who can't stand.

Someone who requires a powered device to move.

Someone who can't move 20m, without using an aid other than a wheelchair.


And to get the 'standard' component of mobility.

Needs prompting to be able to complete any journey to avoid distress, can walk up to 150m unaided.

Cannot plan the route of a journey.

Cannot move unaided more than 50m.

In some cases, I've simplified important bits, and this is based on a quick skim of the rules.
Do not assume that because you fall into one of the above cases that your award is certain.

As always, evidence of your condition is important.

schrodie

rogerblack wrote: »

To clarify this for those who've not read the full proposals.

You need to get 12 points to be entitled to full rate mobility (the car), and 8 points for standard.

This is however in some ways fairer - before you could only gain high rate mobility if it was your ability to walk solely limiting your mobility.
Now, points are also awarded for being unable to find your way.

This concession was thanks to a lot of campaigning from the RNIB.

However the remainder of the changes to the Mobility descriptors is AFAICS to limit those who are not wheelchair bound from getting the 12 points necessary for the enhanced rate of PIP Mobility and the other passported benefits like automatic qualification for a Blue Badge, Car Tax exempt etc. If you're not wheelchair bound then you'll have to show you cannot walk more than 20m, this is down from the previous 50m.

Wheelchairs powered or not have now been taken out of the equation. They are not mentioned.