1 year of solar power....

chris1973

its council installed - so they get the payments

Looks like Eastbourne Council are onto a clear winner, A big reduction in Council Tax for you all next year then?

HalloweenJack

ben a busy week or so in my new job!

no i wish - they appear to be using the fit`s to fund more panels though

grahamc2003

JC_Derby wrote: »

how much has it saved you then over a year???

Probably less than his bill is loaded to pay for this and other green schemes.

If he has used half of the generation, then he's saved probably £110. Other customers have paid about £1,000 in subsidies for him to save that £110.

DPJames

£110 a year!?!
How much would a set up like that cost joe public to install?
Sounds like it'll take three lifetimes to pay for itself. So if I get it fitted tomorrow, then perhaps my great grandchildren will reap the benefits.
Green energy is defo NOT the future.

steve-L

DPJames wrote: »

£110 a year!?!

Green energy is defo NOT the future.

Well, it was until they decided to stop building new nuclear plants!
Stick in some fast breeders to take care of the waste and cheap, green energy....

Now we have these dreadful to the environment wind farms going up and panels that have a huge carbon footprint to manufacture... and thank goodness it takes 3 lifetimes to pay back the cost as that is probably about the time it will take to pay back the environmental costs of manufacturing them...

Actually... the figures for our latitudes work out for a 15 yr lifetime of the panel about 1/2 the CO2 equivalent of gas.... however gas releases far less heavy metals into the environment than solar panel manufacture.

Article: (not quite hiding this but not drawing it to the readers attention)
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es071763q

Article doing the maths
http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2008/03/the-ugly-side-o.html

You can thank Greenpeace and chums for putting a stop to green energy.... :T

it would be interesting to repeat the calculation for heavy metals (incl. uranium)... and see how much heavy metal pollution solar cells make compared to U235 distillation.

HalloweenJack

grahamc2003 wrote: »

Probably less than his bill is loaded to pay for this and other green schemes.

If he has used half of the generation, then he's saved probably £110. Other customers have paid about £1,000 in subsidies for him to save that £110.

i didnt pay for the system to be installed , so im paying subsidies myself for it anyway

trying to get 12 months energy consumption out of edf for year 2010>211 (no i dont have offline statements) but i was moved to the new computer system so only have them online from amrch last year - which is still 3 months of solar)

edit:

edf have emailed me 2010>2011 useage , seems ive saved somewhere around1200 kwh between the 2 years

chris1973

edf have emailed me 2010>2011 useage , seems ive saved somewhere around1200 kwh between the 2 years

So about £144 over two years, or approx £72 a year based on an average of £0.12 kw/h

Considering we are all likely to be £100 a year worse off because of Green Subsidies like this being added to energy bills, I make it that, technically, you are still almost £30 down for having these things on your roof, and we'd all be much better off if we told them to get stuffed, rather then encouraging them.

HalloweenJack

no i mean 1200 kwh lower useage this year than last (comparing figures from dec 2010> dec 2011 when panels were installed ; comparrison to the last 12 months)


2010> 2011 i used around 6600 kwh


whilst

2011 >2012 it was 5400 kwh

buglawton

Heat collecting water pipes on roof, that cut your electrically/gas heated water needs actually give mu better return on investment for everyone. See them all over Japan. But not being adopted.

On another note, there was somewhere in the UK that actually has some SUN during the past year??

penrhyn

buglawton wrote: »

Heat collecting water pipes on roof, that cut your electrically/gas heated water needs actually give mu better return on investment for everyone. See them all over Japan. But not being adopted.

On another note, there was somewhere in the UK that actually has some SUN during the past year??

The return on investment is the subsidised FIT payment made to to owners of the ecobling, nothing to do with the small savings on usage.
The cowboys moved over to Solar PV as there were no subsidies for Solar Thermal.