Installing a wood burner - advice please!

Alycidon

hethmar wrote: »

I often wonder if people saying they are HETAS registered are genuinely so, or whether dodgey ones just give out duff certs and never register? The biggest shops round here tend to farm out the actual installations though they appear to do it in house, its just not so. The recent case where we found a stove connected to a gas liner :eek: was a job done by an installer sent out from a stove shop.

This is easily checked online. The survey should be done by a Hetas qualified engineer as well as the install.

Some stove shops do have Hetas approved installers on the books working for them but add extra independent teams for the Sept - Jan stove season.

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A._Badger

Alycidon wrote: »

Hetas does not have a monopoly, any building inspector can sign installs off as safe to use. Yes it gives solid advice to govt, advise designed to stop people accidentally killing themselves or their loved ones.A

Yes HETAS does have a monopoly, It is, effectively, the only installer that can self-certify. And we have seen plenty of evidence on this forum that its members are, at best, a pretty mixed bunch. Even other HETAS members on here complain about them!

You might want to try reading back a while before wading in.

hethmar

Alycidon wrote: »

hethmar wrote: »

I often wonder if people saying they are HETAS registered are genuinely so, or whether dodgey ones just give out duff certs and never register? The biggest shops round here tend to farm out the actual installations though they appear to do it in house, its just not so. The recent case where we found a stove connected to a gas liner :eek: was a job done by an installer sent out from a stove shop.

This is easily checked online. The survey should be done by a Hetas qualified engineer as well as the install.

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You cant check on line if a certificate/installation has been registered, neither can you know if the guy who came out is the guy who actually has the registration. We have been aware of a registered person "signing off" for installations they havent even seen. And as you must know, HETAS may check on site for perhaps just one job a year completed by an installer who may have done hundreds in that period.

hethmar

Alycidon wrote: »

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You will need a CO2 alarm as well.

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Thats a CO monitor guys A 7 year sealed carbon monoxide alarm fitted in the correct position is the legal requirement. We use the Angel fire CO-9X

lukerichardson40

Just had a wood burner installed myself. The HETAS fitter said that we do not need a liner. Asked several times, always saying no. Anyway, fire goes in and is certified. Fire it up exactly as we should to find smoke coming out in the kitchen (via another fire place other side of the wall to the fire and other side of the house) and the upstairs spare room (above and behind the fire)... Needless to say I am a bit annoyed and have now got a liner to fit.

Basically, the HETAS fitter may well miss something and say you dont when you really do. Our fitter was highly recommended by the well established and reputable supplier of the fire.

Swipe

Alycidon wrote: »

and you will be prosecuted for breech of building regs, fine can run into several thousand pounds depending on what has been done.

Please could you cite the source for this statement?

Alycidon

A._Badger wrote: »

Yes HETAS does have a monopoly, It is, effectively, the only installer that can self-certify.

Agreed, but anyone can use a building inspector to achieve the same end.

we have seen plenty of evidence on this forum that its members are, at best, a pretty mixed bunch. Even other HETAS members on here complain about them!

I have to agree with that as well, we have corrected some very poor installations done by other Hetas registered installers. The Hetas installer training course is frankly not that hard to pass.

You might want to try reading back a while before wading in.

I tell it as I see it, warts and all. I spend all day and half the night selling and delivering stoves and firewood so I do know a bit more than the norm on this subject.

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Leif

Alcidon: When you quote a post, please donot delete the [/QUOTE] tag from the end of the quoted text, otherwise you screw the formatting, as has happened many times in your posts. It makes it confusing.

It would be useful if you read back in this thread and noted the experience of various contributors (not me though).

stovepipe

I checked sopme of this out and HETAS is a company limited by guarantee with no share capital - so no dividends, no shareholders, just people trying to do a good job for installers, consumers and the industry. Some of the stuff you guys are saying is just untrue. And no they are not a monopoly. GasSafe is the only monopoly. My experience of OFTEC and HETAS has been good. Sorry to buck the trend but I must speak as I find

best wishes all,
Stovepipe

A._Badger

stovepipe wrote: »

I checked sopme of this out and HETAS is a company limited by guarantee with no share capital - so no dividends, no shareholders, just people trying to do a good job for installers, consumers and the industry. Some of the stuff you guys are saying is just untrue. And no they are not a monopoly. GasSafe is the only monopoly. My experience of OFTEC and HETAS has been good. Sorry to buck the trend but I must speak as I find

best wishes all,
Stovepipe

And with a name like 'Stovepipe'. you're not a member?

Why, that's almost spam.