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Accident is costing me £3k
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Is this trader willing to put your car on his forecourt at £6k and take his 5% commission on that?
If so, it will fly off the forecourt and he gets his 5% for no effort. You have different interests in this discussion, yours is to get the best price, his is to get his commission as quickly as possible and cheaper is better to achieve his aim.
I understand where you are coming from, but that isn't the case at all.
He is simply a realist on dealing with cars for 35 years and I trust him completely. That's not the issue.
I'm getting a letter from the dealer that sold my car to me in the first instance. I'll pass this on to the legal people at my insurance firm and go from there.
Cheers0 -
The trade price of your car is £6175. NOT £7275. Thats where the dealer is getting his £6K from
You were NEVER going to get £9000 for the car as thats a full retail dealer forecourt price, so you havent lost £3,000 because you were never getting £9000 for it anyway.
no, it's £7275 on part ex.
the dealer would put in on the forecourt for just under 9k. he's not buyer it from me, he was just listing it for me.
sorry if you got confused.0 -
Why are you so reluctant to give us the relevant details for the vehicle, rather than price guides which could relate to anything?
the car itself doesn't matter. the value of the car does, and I know what this. I've detailed it above.
I'm simply asking of any other MSE members have gone through this, without going down the road of selling it privately and not telling the buyer..
which I am loathed to do.0 -
ponkysnonky wrote: »the car itself doesn't matter. the value of the car does, and I know what this. I've detailed it above.
The car, its age, condition and mileage are the only things which matter, in order that, just like any potential buyer, we can compare it against similar vehicles, and draw a conclusion as to its possible value.
YOU do not know the value of the car, you only know what price you would be happy to get for the car.0 -
ponkysnonky wrote: »I understand where you are coming from, but that isn't the case at all.
He is simply a realist on dealing with cars for 35 years and I trust him completely. That's not the issue.
I'm getting a letter from the dealer that sold my car to me in the first instance. I'll pass this on to the legal people at my insurance firm and go from there.
Cheers
Do let us know how you get on. As you can see, the good people of MSE beleive you have two hopes, Bob Hope and no hope and Bob is dead.
If you manage to get anything it'll be interesting to see. I fear you are goign to be disappointed but good luck anyway.What if there was no such thing as a rhetorical question?0 -
Some of it will be individual to certain dealers.ponkysnonky wrote: »i was wondering whether I should accept it back from the repairers...
we had the car up for sale in a local dealers, and they won't touch it now, as it's been in an accident, which, although not written off, is bad enough to have placed it on a jig to bend it back to shape.
the Seat dealer told me he wouldn't put his family in it, and we should refuse to have it back...
Years ago (mid-to-late 90s), the first car I owned was a VW Polo - it was 2.5 years old when I bought it (bought it from my parents who'd owned it from new, and they let me pay the what the dealer was going to give them in trade-in for it, as that was what they were going to do - ie trade it in for a newer car). Whilst they'd had it, it had a rear end shunt - not overly heavy, and was repaired at the same main dealers they'd bought it from, and where they were buying a new car.
Now I paid the trade-in value of £4k, owned it for about 1.5 - 2 years. Whilst I owned it, it was also involved in a heavier rear end shunt - that cost £2.7k to repair, required new rear panels, a new rear wing (it was a 3 door model), new boot floor, new taligate. It was put on a jig, for alignment purposes, but they said it all lined up correctly.
This was all done and repaired at the same main dealers, who had a very good bodyshop, and the people who worked there, were very reliable, and used an automated / computerised system for producing the reports on how it would be repaired. It took quite a while for it to be done.
Not long after that, I traded it in at the same dealers for a newer car, and given at the time I was driving around 25k miles in a year, I'd put on a fair amount of miles since I'd owned it - it still wasn't what you'd consider high mileage, but that was helped by my parents only driving modest mileage whilst they owned it.
The same main dealer that did all the repairs to it, gave me something like £3250 trade in, given that 18 / 24 months earlier they were allowing £4k trade-in, and it had had a significant repair done, and had a fair amount of miles added on since.
What I would say, is that if the repair is done correctly, and to factory spec, I wouldn't worry. But if it's farmed around to the most competitive bidder / cheaper option that insurers would prefer, that may be a different matter.0 -
Interesting video, thanks.atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »going on a jig doesnt mean the chassis had it. more likely the front support legs got hit (front impact) and the crossmember and front valance frame pulled those legs in on eachother, its common practice to put the jig on these to pull them back out straight for the other componants to fit on correctly, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJN24_KHK5s&NR=1&feature=endscreen like this.
When he's pulled various sections out, I noticed he hammers the areas affected - it's that to check robustness of the metal there, or to de-stress it or something?0 -
ponkysnonky wrote: »the car itself doesn't matter. the value of the car does, and I know what this. I've detailed it above.
I'm simply asking of any other MSE members have gone through this, without going down the road of selling it privately and not telling the buyer..
which I am loathed to do.
Look. You're wrong here.
Thats the bottom line.
The dealer is either lying to you, is terminally dim, or you're not giving us all the facts.
IT JUST SIMPLY DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
It cant. Where would we, as motor traders draw the line? When a wing has been dented? When a car has been painted at all? When its been on a jig? How would we know???????
You're NOT going to get anywhere with this through the courts. You're wasting you're own time and to be honest, everyones time on here by not accepting FACTS0 -
ponkysnonky wrote: »no, it's £7275 on part ex.
the dealer would put in on the forecourt for just under 9k. he's not buyer it from me, he was just listing it for me.
sorry if you got confused.
Please dont tell me how to do my job.
I can read Glass's Guide and interpret the results thank you very much.
Please give me the details of your car and i will get you an accurate valuation.0 -
ponkysnonky wrote: »no, it's £7275 on part ex.
the dealer would put in on the forecourt for just under 9k. he's not buyer it from me, he was just listing it for me.
sorry if you got confused.
A £1600 gross markup is NOT enough for a main dealer to operate.0
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