G24 Contractual Parking Charge - what happens if I ignore now new laws are in?

claire.2012

I recently received a Contractual Parking charge from G24 ltd with an image of my car entering and leaving the carpark. The notice states that I need to pay £25 within so many days otherwise the charge will go up to £50. I have read tons of threads on this company and it seems that everyone just ignores them. My concern is that most of these threads are from before the 1st october 2012 when the new parking laws came in. So, my question is what will happen if I ignore it now the laws have been changed, do they have any powers to force me to pay? Will it affect my credit score if I don't pay? What's the likelehood of going to court?

peter_the_piper

claire.2012 wrote: »

I recently received a Contractual Parking charge from G24 ltd with an image of my car entering and leaving the carpark. The notice states that I need to pay £25 within so many days otherwise the charge will go up to £50. I have read tons of threads on this company and it seems that everyone just ignores them. My concern is that most of these threads are from before the 1st october 2012 when the new parking laws came in. So,
1)my question is what will happen if I ignore it now the laws have been changed,
2)do they have any powers to force me to pay?
3)Will it affect my credit score if I don't pay?
4)What's the likelehood of going to court?

1) the same as before
2)No
3)No
4)negligible

taffy056

Nothing of significance has changed, the fake tickets are still bog paper and should be ignored if you are the RK of the vehicle.

SodG24

Note my username I've ignored two sets of invoices from them.

Just to you know what a scummy lowlife company they are they broke their contract with Nominet ( the people who control the internet domain names ) by supplying an address with a PO Box number. This was against the contract they entered into.When challenged they provided a false address. It was only when Nominet threatened to take away their domain name g24.co.uk that they supplied a proper real address.

Look at your invoice - I bet it doesn't show the VAT ? They provide a service and so VAT should be shown but it isn't. That's because they are tax evaders as well.

Such lovely people at G24 - scum and scammers. Ignore them. The "new" law makes no difference to the illegal invoice.

The_Slithy_Tove

claire.2012 wrote: »

My concern is that most of these threads are from before the 1st october 2012 when the new parking laws came in. So, my question is what will happen if I ignore it now the laws have been changed, do they have any powers to force me to pay? Will it affect my credit score if I don't pay? What's the likelehood of going to court?

What "new parking laws"? If you are referring to the Protection of Freedoms Act, it is not "new parking laws", and does not change anything in terms of their legitimacy.

There is a lot of misinformation around concerning the Protection of Freedoms Act. This is largely pedalled by the private parking companies in an attempt to add some kind of legitimacy to their charges, not helped by sloppy and lazy journalism which regurgitates what the parking companies say without checking if it's true or not.

Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 introduces the concept of Keeper Liability for private parking charges if the registered keeper fails to divulge who the driver was. That is all.

• It does not make parking charges enforceable (or any more enforceable than they were before, which, on the whole is not enforceable at all)

• It does not require the registered keeper to name the driver on request - there is no obligation. If the keeper fails to name the driver, the "liability" (such as it is) reverts to the keeper (see previous point). If the driver and keeper are the same person, then there is no difference anyway.

• It does not set out any kind of statutory framework for parking charges, they are still based on contract law or trespass, and in that respect nothing has changed

• It does not define the wording that must be used to make parking charge notices "legal", "enforceable" or "valid". The Act sets out wording and points that must be included in order for the parking company to be able to apply keeper liability, but using all the correct words does not make the notice any more legally enforceable than it was before (see point 1)

Your chances of going to court are much the same as they were before, i.e. pretty much infinitessimal. All the previous advice around this and credit records still stands.

Coupon-mad

claire.2012 wrote: »

I recently received a Contractual Parking charge from G24 ltd with an image of my car entering and leaving the carpark. The notice states that I need to pay £25 within so many days otherwise the charge will go up to £50. I have read tons of threads on this company and it seems that everyone just ignores them. My concern is that most of these threads are from before the 1st october 2012 when the new parking laws came in. So, my question is what will happen if I ignore it now the laws have been changed, do they have any powers to force me to pay? Will it affect my credit score if I don't pay? What's the likelehood of going to court?

This 'new law' guff has been covered endless times and I last posted this yesterday, and the day before...

It has been discussed to death TBH and you could have just searched the forum - but we always reply because it's important that people know that fake PCNs have not suddenly become magically enforceable!

So here's the same old summary again (sorry to the regulars) :





The registered keeper doesn't 'have to' do anything at all. These fake PCNs are as unenforceable as they ever were - it's just that these scam firms are now able to aim their threatogams at the registered keeper if they are not informed who the driver was.

Big deal...the keeper can still make paper aeroplanes out of them as we always did, just as shown by Tim Cary, the expert Solicitor in this Watchdog clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAIcdi9niHA


A SUMMARY:

As far as private parking ticket scams are concerned, for a vehicle where you or family are the registered keeper*:

Any fake PCN issued for an incident up until 30th Sept 2012 = IGNORE IT.

Any fake PCN issued for an incident from 1st October 2012 onwards:

- if you were parked in Scotland or NI = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a firm who are NOT members of the BPA AOS, or are one of five AOS members currently banned from getting data = IGNORE IT.

- if your 'ticket' is from a non-banned by the DVLA!! AOS member in England/Wales, there are 2 choices:

a) IGNORE IT, as ever, playing snap with the threatograms that match our sticky thread 'PPC letter chains' (near the top of this parking forum),

or

b) Appeal it with help from here in how to word it, and insist on a referral to the POPLA appeals service if it's not cancelled. Costs the PPC £32 plus, costs you nothing, it's not binding on you but it is binding on the PPC. If you do not win your appeal then revert to ignore mode.

This option is for those who want to fight back, cost the PPC money and test the POPLA system whilst also getting their PPC's tactics scrutinised; start by reading threads about POPLA. Recent posters have had great success where their case is clearly a very unfair ticket (such as disabled overstay or slight overlap of a white line, etc.) by using email and wording it not as an appeal but a complaint, and copying in the retailer/landowner to that complaint.

Finally, if anyone gets any fake PCN anywhere in the UK in a retail, cinema, fast food or Supermarket car park then even if you choose to ignore the scammers then COMPLAIN IN WRITING to the CEO of the company on site if you were a customer. Do not appeal to them, complain about this protection racket against their paying ex-customers.

HTH





* it is different for hire/lease/company cars as you could find the fake PCN paid for you! Here is a thread about what to do (whether AOS scheme member or not, you need to appeal to hook the PPC in your direction).

Linceyloo

Hi I have read loads of posts on here regarding parking charge notices, however I guess I'm hoping that my case is the same, but nervous about ignoring.
I overstayed my welcome in a retail park car park and have since received a Parking charge notice from Parking eye of £80 discounted to £48 if paid within 14 days. It does have photos of my car entering and leaving.

The final paragraph of the notice says " We would like to remind you, if you were the driver at the time of the parking even you are required to pay or appeal the parking charge"

It does not say what to do if I wasn't the driver at the time of parking event.

I have already received a second letter reminding me to pay, but to be honest, I had ignored it already as I don't have the cash to pay it. Should I still ignore?

tom9980

Please do ignore it if you are unsure about any further letters come and ask.

ManxRed

Ignore everything they send you, regardless of how threatening it is. They DON'T take you to court, because legally speaking you owe them zero, and what's more they know this.

Linceyloo

Ok Thanks, I will continue to ignore, will update you should anything change.

:beer:

The_Slithy_Tove

Linceyloo wrote: »

The final paragraph of the notice says " We would like to remind you, if you were the driver at the time of the parking even you are required to pay or appeal the parking charge"

They seem to have omitted the third option, which is to ignore them.

Linceyloo wrote: »

Should I still ignore?

Yes!