Bread sinking halfway through....

mrs_sparrow

I've got a(nother) loaf in the breadmaker - it has risen and is nearly touching the top so a decent size, ben cooking the breadmaker for almost 2 hours.

Go out and have another look 10 mins later and the top has sunk down with another hour to cook.

Any ideas? It IS rising but there must be a reason for it dropping. Can someone enlighten me as to how I stop it doing this. Really annoying now!!

Using:
300ml water with 1 tsp salt
1 tbl oil
400g strong bread/100g whole
1 tsp sugar
2 teaspoon fast cook yeast

3 hour programme

j.e.j.

Does your breadmaker have a manual that came with it? In the troubleshooting bit of my breadmaker manual it says that if the dough's risen too much and then caved in you need to decrease the amount of water used, and possibly also decrease the amount of yeast. If you keep tweaking it, you should find it works out.

mrs_sparrow

It does, I will give that a look. I thought I was putting not enough water in really as it specified 325 and I dropped it to 300. I wonder if the jug is incorrect....

Will have to do another one now. It;s expensive this moneysaving breadmaking, LOL.

Linton

I too have found the quality of the bread from my bread maker (Panasonic) is very sensitive to the amount of water used. The manual says 300ml water/400gm flour. I tend to use about 280ml water now with pretty good results.

Also it seems to help to warm the water a bit (warm not hot!) before use.

The quantity of yeast used seems rather high. My recipe says half a teaspoon of yeast, but I use just under 1.

mrs_sparrow

I used the recipe from the tin of yeast but I will try adjusting it now.

foxgloves

I've had this problem. I think it's because I like to make the 70% wholemeal loaf recipe in the Panasonic manual, but find that the dough is a bit stiff & the paddle doesn't seem to be able to twizzle it around sufficiently to get a good rise. So I started adding a bit of extra water (warm) & things improved. However, if I make a 50% wholemeal & use the icnreased water, I do sometimes get this great rise then a bit of a sink by the time it's done. Agree with previous post about Pansonic being pretty sensitive to water amounts.

daska

My current breadmaker only produces a half-way decent loaf if I use the 'fast' setting. I've given up using the full program as a result! The Panasonic I had before was a doddle in comparison.

(I've been making bread by hand for 35 years so it's not that I don't know what I'm doing LOL)

It may not be you getting it wrong!

Badrick

Two teaspoons of yeast is double the recommended for our Panasonic.
I'd also reduce water to 270mls for 400grams of flour and add the salt as a separate ingredient, as it will have an effect on the yeast rising.
Here's a useful chart.
Troubleshooting Chart for Bread Machines

mrs_sparrow

Well, I did everything as I should have done, I went for the French Bread recipe which uses 600g flour and around 330ml water - lovely big risen loaf of bread...... until I cut it and half of it was air!!!

I've got a MR Fastbake.

Seriously considering giving this up now!! Will try another recipe in the morning. Even the packet mixes were coming out lovely but are now have sunk by the time I get them out.

mrs_sparrow

Another update....

I have found out it is the bread hitting the cold air!! We have made 1lb and 2.5lb and they have come out perfectly as they are not rising so high in the pan. Whether there is a problem with the lid or whether it is something else I have no idea, but I'll just make smaller loaves from now on and it should be problem solved. It tasted a bit sweet, like american bread, so I've reduced the amount of sugar in this loaf and taken out the dried skimmed milk and will see what this one looks like.

happy35

i have this problem as well so now only use the BM to make the dough and then shape into bread rolls, leave to rise for about 30 mins and bake in the oven but have done it succesfully as a loaf in the oven

I use, 500g flour, 1 tsp yeast, 1 tsp salt, 1 tbsp oil, 1/4 tsp sugar and 280mls of water. Taste is lovely but bake in my breadmaker is not good and doesnt taste anywhere near as nice as in the oven as the texture is totally different