Reconnect Gas cooker Hose?

leew

BobQ wrote: »

On the basis that Gas Safety is too important to be done by the unqualified its really irritating when the qualified engineer abuses their position to make the customer pay through the nose for things that do not need doing. Yet some are unscupulous enough to hide behind the regulations and turn some kind of advisory notice (relating to a recent change in regulation that is not required for existing installations) into work that needs to be done.

Agree with that.

All that needed to be done was for him to explain the situation and say do not use the Cooker until you fix the door hinge and that would have sufficed.

It is plainly obvious it poses no immediate risk and to now lump her with this is totally over the top in my opinion.

Oh well he was a bit young so maybe that explains it!

leew

BobQ wrote: »

Does the report state that it is an advisory notice that its not up to the latest regulations? Or does it say explicitly that the installation in unsafe?

I can't remember off hand but he did say if the door could shut as it supposed to do he wouldn't have cut the Gas off so i guess it can't be unsafe as such.

unclebulgaria

Whether the gas safe registered engineer was right or wrong to disconnect this appliance is very hard to say for another gas safe registered engineer on here just going off your second hand information. What we're all told is that we're the engineer on site and its our call to make! Now if he had left the appliance connected and it injured your friend or god forbid killed her (please don't use that old chestnut "well it's worked fine up to now" excuse) he would have been fined, lost his registration and possibly his liberty!
Now if you know better BobQ please let us all know? Otherwise lets no tar us all with the cowboy brush.
His age has nothing to do with it either, I've met some half soaked dangerous older GSR engineers who are know it all's and left appliances working that should have been turned off.
He hasn't caused her anymore harm than forcing your friend to get it fixed.
If people aren't happy with a trade get another in!

southcoastrgi

+1 ub...........

AquaJen

I would definitely advise against reconnecting it yourself unless you have the correct equipment and knowledge to carry out a tightness test afterwards.

southcoastrgi

ok i have deleted my post but AJ the general view is that a baynot fitting can be reconnected by the home owner, normally i don't agree with non reg peeps doing any kind of gas work but in this case the cooker shouldn't have been disconnected in the first place.

molerat

So if it was AR and he disconnected it he should come back and reconnect it for free

southcoastrgi

molerat wrote: »

So if it was AR and he disconnected it he should come back and reconnect it for free

I agree but he didn't he considered it ID which is why he disconnected it, however if you look inside a gas cooker it is open at the bottom to allow air in so the flame can burn correctly & opening the door does the same thing so providing the flame picture is correct then the faulty door is AR not ID & should have been left connected with a sticker & paperwork advising the customer not to use it, the reason the door has to seal & be sercure is so heat doesn't escape & damage the controls or whatever is above the door it's not to prevent co escaping because if the oven is producting co then it's not burning correctly then this is ID, for example if a boiler is AR then all we have to do is turn off the switched spur & tell the customer not to use it.

gas4you

If it was AR then all he should have done was undo the bayonet to disconnect the cooker. What the customer does after this and the warning noticed has been signed, is up to them.

If he classed it as ID then he should have undone the bayonet, then cut the bayonet connector off and capped the gas pipe so nobody could reconnect the cooker.

BobQ

unclebulgaria wrote: »

Now if you know better BobQ please let us all know? Otherwise lets no tar us all with the cowboy brush.

I said "Yet some are unscupulous enough to hide behind the regulations and turn some kind of advisory notice (relating to a recent change in regulation that is not required for existing installations) into work that needs to be done."

Please do not accuse me of tarring all. As I said "Yet some are...". Surely you understand that "some" does not mean all!

I agree with you that in general its best to trust the professional engineer to do things correctly.

But I experienced the "incompetence" of a professional gas engineer who sealed off my elderly mothers gas supply (including her central heating in November), on the basis that there was no external vent in the kitchen. He returned the next day planning to redesign the kitchen. When I pointed out the vent and showed him the installation certificate signed by a gas safe engineer three months before he claimed he had not appreciated that "it was a real vent" as he thought it was a terraced house and it was not an external wall. So forgive me if I an not willing to say you are all perfect!:)

Its also quite common for some engineers to issue worrying looking advisory notices that identify changes in regulations since the original installation even though they do not require work to be done, but they then try to drum up business by implying it should. You may not do this but it does happen.