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May have driven down bus street....
We went to a family party yesterday in Taunton. When we got there, my Mother in Law was very worried that we had driven down a bus road. Apparently other family members were taken down there by sat nav.
I said to her that it was ok because we did drive past a bus road but it was on the left and we went to the right. Looking at google street maps now, it seems that it is possible I have gone down the bus road. Bearing in mind that the weather was awful (torrential rain and flooding), there was a car parked up on the side of the road blocking the signs and kind of pushing us down that route (this car had previously cut us up), would there be any lenience from the enforcers if we get a penalty notice?
I'm gutted this has happened the signposts are terrible and looking it up on the internet, thousands of local people have been caught by this since September. If the locals are being caught, how are non-local's supposed to navigate around the area?
Grr. £130, that's all I need to have to pay out now before Christmas
I said to her that it was ok because we did drive past a bus road but it was on the left and we went to the right. Looking at google street maps now, it seems that it is possible I have gone down the bus road. Bearing in mind that the weather was awful (torrential rain and flooding), there was a car parked up on the side of the road blocking the signs and kind of pushing us down that route (this car had previously cut us up), would there be any lenience from the enforcers if we get a penalty notice?
I'm gutted this has happened the signposts are terrible and looking it up on the internet, thousands of local people have been caught by this since September. If the locals are being caught, how are non-local's supposed to navigate around the area?
Grr. £130, that's all I need to have to pay out now before Christmas
Debt: 16/04/2007:TOTAL DEBT [strike]£92727.75[/strike] £49395.47:eek: :eek: :eek: £43332.28 repaid 100.77% of £43000 target.
MFiT T2: Debt [STRIKE]£52856.59[/STRIKE] £6316.14 £46540.45 repaid 101.17% of £46000 target.
2013 Target: completely clear my [STRIKE]£6316.14[/STRIKE] £0 mortgage debt. £6316.14 100% repaid.
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Are there cameras there? That's the only way you'll have been caught.
I accidentally went up a very poorly signed bus road in Huddersfield the other day but I'm not worried because there are no apparent cameras or signs indicating there are any.0 -
Yup, there are cameras there. It's really annoying because I said to DH, no it's fine because we're going right not left. The other car was up on the pavement and the road and blocking what we could see of the other road.
On the the way back I nearly got wiped out in the floods so it was a bit hairy to say the least.
Why can't they just signpost these things from a bit further away so you can see where to go?
It's the one in Mountway, bishops hull Taunton. Lots of complaints about it.Debt: 16/04/2007:TOTAL DEBT [strike]£92727.75[/strike] £49395.47:eek: :eek: :eek: £43332.28 repaid 100.77% of £43000 target.MFiT T2: Debt [STRIKE]£52856.59[/STRIKE] £6316.14 £46540.45 repaid 101.17% of £46000 target.2013 Target: completely clear my [STRIKE]£6316.14[/STRIKE] £0 mortgage debt. £6316.14 100% repaid.0 -
Yup, there are cameras there. It's really annoying because I said to DH, no it's fine because we're going right not left. The other car was up on the pavement and the road and blocking what we could see of the other road.
On the the way back I nearly got wiped out in the floods so it was a bit hairy to say the least.
Why can't they just signpost these things from a bit further away so you can see where to go?
It's the one in Mountway, bishops hull Taunton. Lots of complaints about it.
Because they won't make as much money (cynical head off)0 -
If you have inadvertantly gone through a bus gate as they are called then there could well be a number of options available to you, most council issued tickets can be overturned at appeal.
I have fought a few myself now and have won them all, I am currently awaiting a recent appeal on behalf of my brother.
Im afraid all you can do at the moment is wait and see if you get a ticket through the post, if you do come back on here and post a new thread in the tickets section http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=163
or register on pepipoo and ask their advice which is second to none.You may click thanks if you found my advice useful0 -
I drove in a bus only road by mistake in Glasgow and got caught by a camera, but because it was only £30 for quick payment, and I knew I'd done it, I paid up. If it had been £130 I might have been more likely to ask on Pepipoo for grounds to fight it.0
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Oh, another thing which I think may help my case is that the roads around were flooded and that it was widely known on news channels that flood diversion signs had gone missing in the bishops hull area.Debt: 16/04/2007:TOTAL DEBT [strike]£92727.75[/strike] £49395.47:eek: :eek: :eek: £43332.28 repaid 100.77% of £43000 target.MFiT T2: Debt [STRIKE]£52856.59[/STRIKE] £6316.14 £46540.45 repaid 101.17% of £46000 target.2013 Target: completely clear my [STRIKE]£6316.14[/STRIKE] £0 mortgage debt. £6316.14 100% repaid.0
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Found it on streetview and I don't think you have a leg to stand on. Two sets of very clear signs and clearly painted on the road that its a bus route. Unless the signs were defective as in broken or defaced then you're out of luck. And the car would need to be a large van to completely block the signs from what I can see in streetview. I rather think you're trying to shift the blame for your own failings here.0 -
The car was a 4x4 which had just cut me up and then screeched to a halt in front of me. It was dark, flooding and torrential rain. Very different to how it looks on street view I'm afraid .Debt: 16/04/2007:TOTAL DEBT [strike]£92727.75[/strike] £49395.47:eek: :eek: :eek: £43332.28 repaid 100.77% of £43000 target.MFiT T2: Debt [STRIKE]£52856.59[/STRIKE] £6316.14 £46540.45 repaid 101.17% of £46000 target.2013 Target: completely clear my [STRIKE]£6316.14[/STRIKE] £0 mortgage debt. £6316.14 100% repaid.0
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Found it on streetview and I don't think you have a leg to stand on. Two sets of very clear signs and clearly painted on the road that its a bus route. Unless the signs were defective as in broken or defaced then you're out of luck. And the car would need to be a large van to completely block the signs from what I can see in streetview. I rather think you're trying to shift the blame for your own failings here.
GSV is often wrong for starters and should never be relied upon for signage matters.
Then - all traffic signs have to adhere to the Traffic Signs Regulationsand General Directions regulations 2002 - many dont thus voiding the contravention.
Then theres the ticket if she gets one - these are also often flawed in more ways than one, the regs concerned give the wording that is to be used on said tickets, if its measurably wrong then the ticket is void, easy appeal.
GSV is so often used to look at road signs etc then when you see them there years out of date, take a case I have appealed for my brother, the GSV showed road markings and signs that werent even there when his mrs drove through the bus gate, that was purely down to poor signage she did it, I along with several more have Bath council by the watsits so much so this particular BG appeal had its own adjudication as potentially the council stand to loose £1000's.
Dont jump the gun with council tickets....ever, dont ignore them either ! almost all council ticket can successfully be appealed.You may click thanks if you found my advice useful0
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