csa grrrrrr

his_wife

36d days,,, i know his obligations are to his child, the same as mine are to my children. However, we are on csa1,,,where MY wages are taken into account to support his child,,,, so when my children have to go without and loose out you can see why i get a little frustrated!!

His daughter never gets second or third dibs, she has always came first! both via husband and through the csa, what he pays her mum a month is what i have to run the entire household on including bills.

I have never said she cant have, what i have said is the csa raising the bar to 20 is gut wrenching especially when she is still doing a first year course three years down the line!!!!

Marisco

duchy wrote: »

I bet you believe in the tooth fairy too
Plenty of men in well paying middle/upper management jobs refuse to give their kids a penny once the CSA allows they to stop.

I made a verbal agreement with my fully employed higher tax bracket husband that he would contribute in part to our son's education until he finished university-partly because it was the morally right thing to do as had we not split up we would have done so and partly because as he has a disability my earning choices were limited as he needed more support than the average child-so although I've always worked my earning capacity was impacted by needing to work more child friendly hours, not able to travel with work either nationally or internationally and work close to home.

Since April he's cut himself off completely from our son -won't take his calls, ignores his emails .....and all because he was applying to go to university and he didn't have the guts to tell him to his face he wouldn't even give him a few quid a week to help him out (working part-time isn't really an option with a full study load and Aspergers for him). My heart breaks for Josh -he adores his Dad and can't understand why he's done it -but his girlfriend "explained" it to me- I don't have the heart to tell him the whole truth.

He works for a multinational Fortune 500 IT consultancy in Egham and apparently there is quite a culture within the company of their well paid employees doing this.... so it's hardly just the "deadbeats" doing it.

Aye, and Father Xmas, Unicorns and the Fairies that live at the bottom of my garden! You unfortunately, have a arrishole of an ex, but many have decent ones, who don't mind helping their kids through college/uni. What they don't like is giving the PWC money, especially when the "child" is 18 +.

At 18 they should be able to choose to give the money to the "child", it should then be up to the "child" to negotiate with the PWC. I don't think many would refuse help to the "child". Of course you'll still get those that won't, but I don't think anyone should be forced to either. The kids will soon suss what the NRP is like!!

shegirl

his_wife wrote: »

36d days,,, i know his obligations are to his child, the same as mine are to my children. However, we are on csa1,,,where MY wages are taken into account to support his child,,,, so when my children have to go without and loose out you can see why i get a little frustrated!!

His daughter never gets second or third dibs, she has always came first! both via husband and through the csa, what he pays her mum a month is what i have to run the entire household on including bills.

I have never said she cant have, what i have said is the csa raising the bar to 20 is gut wrenching especially when she is still doing a first year course three years down the line!!!!

No,your wages are taken into account to support YOUR household rather than it all being deemed to be your husbands responsibility

his_wife

I have always supported MY household, i am not saying my husband shouldnt support HIS child, i am saying at 19 it should be a volunteered amount, direct to the child, rather than a demanded amount to the pwc.

wayne0

lol , @hiswife... i realised long ago NRP/P wont get support here.... :P just go with the flow...

we r all screwed on this boat... just hope the case gets closed before he the law goes to 20 yo, then its CS2 for u, and you working wont effect it...

FBaby

I totally agree that in a perfect world, the money should go to the child themselves, because at that age, they should indeed be learning to budget their finances anyhow, however, maybe the reason why it's been up is because experience is indeed that once csa is stopped, so is all support to the child and this is the only way that the child can still continue their studies and be supported through it financially?

PreludeForTimeFeelers

wayne0 wrote: »

lol , @hiswife... i realised long ago NRP/P wont get support here.... :P just go with the flow...

we r all screwed on this boat... just hope the case gets closed before he the law goes to 20 yo, then its CS2 for u, and you working wont effect it...

The 'up to 20' ruling comes into effect on Monday 10th, along with the supporting legislation for the new scheme.

pelirocco

his_wife wrote: »

it would apply to "children" who are in full time education jones, reaching certain criteria, so it would only apply to those who are still entitled to child benefit. To say im am gutted is an understatement!!

Not as gutted as the parent who has to support any child not able to get a job? Or does being a parent stop when your child gets to a certain age?

clevertrev

Hi
A couple of people have mentioned the 10th of December for the new scheme starting,is that rumour of fact ? I've not seen any dates published officially!

wayne0

PreludeForTimeFeelers wrote: »

The 'up to 20' ruling comes into effect on Monday 10th, along with the supporting legislation for the new scheme.

really.,? because the legislation for the new system states that this legislation is effective from the date that the case moves to the "gross income details" system...

or is it a seperate set of legislation...

if not... does the following in the same legislation mean i can get the csa to remove my tax credits from the calculation:

The Child Support Maintenance

Calculation Regulations 2012

PART 4THE MAINTENANCE CALCULATION RULES
CHAPTER 1

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—(1) Current income is the sum of the non-resident parent’s income—

(a) as an employee or office-holder;

(b) from self-employment; and

(c) from a pension,

calculated or estimated as a weekly amount at the effective date of the relevant calculation

decision in accordance with regulations 38 to 42.

(2) Where payment is made in a currency other than sterling, an amount equal to any banking

charge payable in converting that payment to sterling is to be disregarded in calculating the current

income of a non-resident parent.

i say we all write a letter (those of us in the tax credit boat) to query, as this legislation makes no mention of the tax credits, but clearly states what is income...

however: this is where it comes into force:

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[/FONT]These Regulations may be cited as the Child Support Maintenance Calculation Regulations

2012 and come into force in relation to a particular case on the day on which paragraph 2 of

Schedule 4 to the Child Maintenance and Other Payments Act 2008

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold](c) [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][/FONT][/FONT](calculation by reference to

gross weekly income) comes into force in relation to that type of case.