Any CORGI Gas people on here - 7 day gap in Landlord Gas Safety Cert - OK?

tbs624

Fire_Fox wrote: »

CORGI has not existed for years, are you sure your 'gas bloke' has current qualifications/ registration?

It is true to say that CORGI is not now responsible for the gas safety registration/ the offical list of "approved" gas engineers (duties taken on by GasSafe) but CORGI *does* still exist, operating as CORGI Services Limited (CSL): they are the fund-raising arm of registered charity The Gas Safety Trust and, amongst other things, offer gas safety related training

Fire_Fox wrote: »

A landlord cannot delegate their legal obligations to a letting agent, the buck stops with you it is you risking court if you break the law. .

Much depends on what the contract between the LL and the LA stipulates: LLs should check this carefully.

According to the HSE "If the contract specifies that the agent has responsibility then the same duties under the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998 that apply to a landlord apply to you."

tbs624

clutton wrote: »

as a long standing landlord my understanding is - i must get my gas appliances/supply/flues etc inspected on, or before, the anniversary of the last Gassafe certificate. I then have 30 days in which to provide the tenant with the certificate - this is to allow the LL legal and reasonable time in which to effect repairs should any applicance fail its inspection. This this 30 days "grace" period is to allow time for the gas engineer to order and get parts forany required repairs.

Please note that your timing is incorrect - the GSC must be provided to an existing T within *28 days* [edit: of] the check being completed (and a current GSC must be shown to any new T prior to them moving in)

tbs624

Annabee wrote: »

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I wondered about my Gas Safety Certificate I should have (as a tenant), and whether my letting agents are acting properly.

When we moved in (a year ago) we did not receive one. (Didn't receive an inventory either, BTW, but thats to my advantage, isn't it?)

In the spring they sent someone round 'to do the annual gas safety check' and I asked the guy if we would get a copy. He said 'No, they just keep it on file in the office'. But at our previous rental with different agent we were always sent a copy. Are the agency allowed to decide not to send tenants copies? Could they get into trouble?

My bolding. No, they are not - there is a reason one part to the GSC is called the *Tenant Copy*. The LL/LA has 28 days from the date of the check being carried out in which to pass an existing T their copy of the GSC

Don't be [edit:surprised] by the inadequacies of LAs - anyone - absolutely anyone- can currently set themselves up in business as an LA. They are not subject to obligatory regulation and they don't need to have any specific knowledge, training or qualifications. Many of them seem to like to make their own rules up as they go along.

Write to the LA ( keep a copy) and insist that they pass the GSC Tenant Copy on to you pronto. Check out the HSE website and provide the appropriate link for the LA and/or use the Tenant Letter Template ( under Tenant FAQs)

If the LA still sfails to provide the copy GSC you should then report them to the local HSE

propertyman

I suggest you join

http://www.rla.org.uk/join/join.shtml

It's £75 to £95 a year and is highly recommended as is a allowable expense.

tbs624

In the interests of balance there is also the NLA, the Guild of Residential LLs and Tessa Shepperson's LL Law.

OP - membership of any of these can be set down on your tax return. You may also qualify for reduced LL insurance premiums.

Some local Councils also run training/accreditation courses for newbie private sector LLs.

propertyman

tbs624 wrote: »

Some local Councils also run training/accreditation courses for newbie private sector LLs.

Oh yes local councils such shining examples of landlording

propertyman

Gas Safety Forms still do come in handwritten "carbon" forms so the T copy can be left on site.

As a suggestion each property under our ministrations have a loose leaf manual with all the FAQS warranties instructions inventory test certs notices etc where to buy vacuum bags etc. It takes 15 minutes to prepare and update from the online version and saves a lot of faffing around.

I am even toying with a DVD/ stick/sd version which plays on a TV or computer or smart phones.