Another load of Chris Grayling - REDTOP lies

Richie-from-the-Boro

Marathon man, and antrobus deliberately misunderstand in order to go benefit bashing, they bring nothing to the debate, and don't even deserve a response.

The point of the post was that this government is rewriting history just like parts of the German political elite would like to rewrite their history on the treatment of the old disabled, gypsies and Jews. The National Socialist German Workers' party did this with the Völkischer Beobachter a daily paper just as our current government do this through the REDTOPS, the German population believed the Völkischer and the British people believe the Sun, as is exemplified by the comments from marathon man, and antrobus.

melbury, no one is staying on, hiding, the fraud rate is miniscule, and the rate of successful appeals proves that there were few of what equitable calls 'lead-swingers' in receipt of disability benefits anyway although I do agree with his / her comments generally.

Yes Frank Field did 'cross over' and carry on his crusade as tsar for the current government .. .. and that is why .. .. the then 3 term 97 -07 socialist party and its back benchers was not prepared even if they believed Field, to treat the nations disabled that way. The truth from Thatcher era to the current incumbents however is as equitable stated, that the socialist years threatened but ever acted against the old, infirm and disabled .. .. while this mob did. Shame on them !

Richie-from-the-Boro

Thatcher 1979 to 1990
Blair 1995 to 2007




Employment was at its lowest whilst unemployment was at its highest in the early nineties - that's when the true blue Tory IB storage party really started and was at its highest. Remember it was the Tories that introduced IB with their 'all work test' test ! Wage slave - blue collar - or management your out on your arras. What's a man going to do ?. 2 kids and a mortgaged 2 up & 2 down they need shoes on their feet and food in their bellies, no where to turn, and regardless of Tebbit's bike no work wherever you look, and no wage. And the 'job shop' offer you an IB 'get~out~of~jail~card~free after 52 weeks - who's gonna blame him. I wouldn't !

Quietly sliding people into IB [*pendulum economics] started and was highest [*a price worth paying] when Maggie decided the best way to simultaneously both defeat the unions and the rampant inflation at the time was to create a model that created unemployment rather than jobs. 2,000 unemployed applicants for every job stopped wage drift in its tracks and led to an immediate reduction in the inflation rate, which during her tenure was astronmic somewhere 18 - 9.5%. Labour later re-invented the 'all work test' and renamed it PCA [Personal Capability Assessment]. Its 'freaky' and unnerving, but hardly surprising to note that ATOS carried out most of the tests that sentenced people to be 'barracked' on IB for the then Tories, but then they like any good commodity dealer will wield the 'helve' for profit for either paymaster, just like any good 'arms dealer' they'll sell to either sides, and both if possible.

IDS and his cronies are lying to you, we the people of this island now believe that any crip [of any designation] is a fiddler. They are becoming age-phobic - disabled-phobic - this tribe at war, is changing the nations conscious, and unconscious psyche. The old, frail, disabled, are engineered into the despised section of brother and mother and child that should be disposed of - wake UP !

NOTE : The * are well worn phrases associated and used throughout the Maggie reign on UK news channels and papers, fed into the machine by both central office, and the cabinet office in the form of Bernard Ingham. That was then - and now is now - any change ? - naw .. .. don't kid yourself its in their very bones of their ideology.


Myths and stereotypes abound about welfare benefits, yet Labour shows no passion in refuting them as the lies they are. - UPDATE - Its now August 2014 - When is Labour going to destroy the Tory welfare myths?

Myth 1: there is a big problem with families where generations have never worked. The truth is that the Labour Force Survey shows only 0.3% where two or more generations of working age have never worked.

Myth 2: most benefits spending goes to unemployed people of working age. The is completely wrong. The biggest element of social security expenditure |(42%) goes to pensioners. Then housing benefit is next, accounting for 20%, of whom one-fifth are in work. Then 15% goes on children, through child benefit and child tax credit. Some 8% goes on disability living allowance, 4% on income support mainly for single parents and carers, 4% on employment and support allowance to those who can’t work due to sickness or disability, and 2% on carer’s allowance and maternity pay. Just 3% is spent on jobseeker’s allowance.

Myth 3: benefit fraud is high and increasing. The latest official DWP estimates show that last year just 0.7% of benefit expenditure was overpaid due to fraud, including a mere 0.3% for incapacity benefits. It is equally false that benefit fraud is increasing. The figures for combined fraud and customer error for JSA and income support show it halved from 9.4% in 1997-8 to only 4.8% in 2004-5.

Myth 4: it is often said that couples on benefits are better off if they split up. In fact, research by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation found that the benefits system provides very similar living standards to families irrespective whether the live together or apart.

Myth 5: the welfare bill has ballooned out of control and grew unsustainably under Labour. In fact, welfare expenditure totalled 11.6% under the Tories in 1996-7, but only 10.7% under Labour up to the crash in 2008-9.

Myth 6: it is said that most benefit claims are long-term so that claimants ‘languish in dependency’. The truth is that over the 2003-8 period leading up to the crash, only 37% received incapacity benefit long term, while 38% were on benefit for less tha one year.

Myth 7: social security benefits are too generous. In fact unemployment benefit levels fall well below what research shows most people believe should form a minimum household budget. A single adult of working age receives just 40% of the weekly minimum income standard, and a couple with two children receive only 62% of the weekly minimum.

Myth 8: most people who claim disability benefits could be working. The truth is that many of the people claiming incapacity benefits are those with low employability in areas of few jobs. Unemployment remains at 2.6 million, there are an average of 8 persons chasing every available job, and most employers (given the choice, which in a very slack labour market they have) would prefer not to take on the risk and hassle of emplying a disabled person. Many people then end up in a situation where they are not fit enough to do the jobs they can get, but can’t get the jobs they can do.