Another load of Chris Grayling - REDTOP lies

Richie-from-the-Boro

By CHRIS GRAYLING, Work and Pensions Minister

TODAY there are around two million people on the sick in this country. Two million people who were told by the last Government: “You cant work, you're too sick. Its better you sit at home and claim benefits !!

What a load of codswallop, unfortunately a week is a long time in politics and 20+ years is even longer. It was mad Maggie Thatcher who in her term of 'raging unemployment, shutting down coal mining / steel / shipbuilding' openly allowed the unemployed to quietly slip into long term IB and disability benefits to launder the triple terrors of unemployment, wage inflation and union [people] power.

marathon_man_3

So, what exactly did the last government do to change the situation?

equitable

marathon_man wrote: »

So, what exactly did the last government do to change the situation?

The last government are not govern-ing, this one is. Your question, like the last governments actions are an irrelevance to the O/P's post.

If and when they're back in power I think as a nation you might be entitled to an explanation, me, I know they threatened the old, ill, and disabled with reform but never actually did anything to hurt them, so I don't want or need an explanation. Until the Labour party is back is returned to power I see no point in your question, it doesn't change the truth in what the poster said. The last government brought in ATOS and immediately neutered it in terms of the disabled, Frank Field was sidelined, and benefit modification went ahead with the 'lead-swingers' but without the draconian measures we now see directly attacking the old & disabled from this government.

I'm of an age that clearly remembers, I agree with the poster Richard whoever he is, and can well recall how easy it was for my friends in that era to lose their job and be literally pushed by the job centres into disability invalidity [or was it incapacity ?] benefits by the then government break the unions and cloak by deceit the unemployment levels by any means possible.

Questions for you marathon man.

What did Macmillan / Alec Douglas-Hume / Harold Wilson / Edward Heath / James Callaghan / Margaret Thatcher / John Major / Tony Blair & Gordon Brown do about this situation ?

antrobus

equitable wrote: »

The last government are not govern-ing, this one is. Your question, like the last governments actions are an irrelevance to the O/P's post.

No it isn't. The OP specifically blamed "mad Maggie Thatcher" who ran the government some twenty years ago, so it would be very relevant to ask them what they think had been going on since that time.

marathon_man wrote: »

So, what exactly did the last government do to change the situation?

They were busy shutting down manufacturing in the UK. The rate of decline of manufacturing in the UK was almost three times faster under Blair than it was under Thatcher. Every Labour government in history has always left office leaving unemployment higher than when it started.

antrobus

equitable wrote: »

... The last government brought in ATOS and immediately neutered it in terms of the disabled, Frank Field was sidelined...

Would that be the same Frank Field who became the current mob's poverty tsar?

equitable wrote: »

...and benefit modification went ahead with the 'lead-swingers' but without the draconian measures we now see directly attacking the old & disabled from this government.

What "draconian measures" has this government introduced?

schrodie

According to the article this was published 11th October 2010. Herr Grayling has now been moved to stick the jackboot into the criminals of the country!

melbury

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

By CHRIS GRAYLING, Work and Pensions Minister

TODAY there are around two million people on the sick in this country. Two million people who were told by the last Government: “You cant work, you're too sick. Its better you sit at home and claim benefits !!

What a load of codswallop, unfortunately a week is a long time in politics and 20+ years is even longer. It was mad Maggie Thatcher who in her term of 'raging unemployment, shutting down coal mining / steel / shipbuilding' openly allowed the unemployed to quietly slip into long term IB and disability benefits to launder the triple terrors of unemployment, wage inflation and union [people] power.

But surely these people were not forced to stay on lB long term were they? They could have taken charge of their lives and found something to do.

schrodie

melbury wrote: »

But surely these people were not forced to stay on lB long term were they? They could have taken charge of their lives and found something to do.

Many many of them would have undergone IB reassessments at periodic intervals as per the regulations at the time.

themull1

its entirely the people who are claiming the benefits fault, they've been living off taxpayers for years, when many are perfectly capable of working. They'll all be getting scared of being found out now when they go for their assessments.

SandraScarlett

Why does equitable seem familiar?

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snoopy89

[FONT=&quot]Same old story repeating itself. At the end of the day both parties have stuck the knife into the poor the sick and disabled. To get at a 0.1/% of fakers.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]It’s just a pity they did not do the same to them shelves, a good deal of MPs would have gone in the last few years.:rotfl:[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Both parties lie and twist to suit themselves and what’s going on. love to know what shares the conserve MPs etc. have in the public companies that have been taken on to run the services and the Olympics etc. you try finding out, very hard. But good fun. Anyway, makes you think. But there are huge grey areas that need a lot of investigating.:)[/FONT]