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State of walls after electrician

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  • It might say it all to you, but we've never had any electric work previously and since the point of "chased" was that the wires would be hidden in the wall I assumed that "chased" meant they'd be hidden in the walls (rather than fully on display within the walls)!


    Many tradesmen seem to assume the customer knows the ins and outs of the job being quoted for. Or they do not think to explain exactly what is being quoted for and do not advise the customer that they may need to spend more £s on plastering or whatever afterwards.
  • muckybutt
    muckybutt Posts: 3,761 Forumite
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    I assume this type of white plastic casing is sheating?
    http://mybuilder-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/2_thumb/402749_74908e2a3d.jpg

    That's not what we can see, but the grey cables running up the wall

    If they havent "capped" the cables after they have installed them then imho they are cowboys, the 17th edition wiring regs state all cables that are hidden in walls should be mechanically protected. Get them back to cap them.
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  • fluffpot
    fluffpot Posts: 1,264 Forumite
    That's not correct Mucky - there is no requirement to provide any sort of protection to cables if they are protected by an RCD at the fuse board. Of course it's good practice to run the cables in oval conduit, but not in any regulation - you can't get them to come back for this.

    OP - I think you'll just have to put this one down to poor communication on both sides and get the plasterer to fill the chases. And of course next time you'll definately ask if you're not sure, eh?
  • zax47
    zax47 Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    muckybutt wrote: »
    If they havent "capped" the cables after they have installed them then imho they are cowboys, the 17th edition wiring regs state all cables that are hidden in walls should be mechanically protected. Get them back to cap them.

    Really?, all cables? Let's have the page or section of BS7671:2008 (as amended 2011) where it says that then. They must be either mechanically protected OR protected by an RCD, if not buried 50mm in the wall or greater. We don't know if the OP's installation includes RCD or not.

    We only fit white plastic capping to prevent damage by the plaster's trowel anyway, it's !!!!!! all use against some idiot with a nail! We (supposedly) put them in "safe zones" to allow for this but your average DIY bodger couldn't care or doesn't know.
  • muckybutt
    muckybutt Posts: 3,761 Forumite
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    zax47 wrote: »
    Really?, all cables? Let's have the page or section of BS7671:2008 (as amended 2011) where it says that then. They must be either mechanically protected OR protected by an RCD, if not buried 50mm in the wall or greater. We don't know if the OP's installation includes RCD or not.

    Whatever !
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  • nickj_2
    nickj_2 Posts: 7,052 Forumite
    unfortunately in my experience , electricians are very good at not making good and clearing up their mess , instead , leaving it to the painters to sort out their inadequacies
  • fluffpot
    fluffpot Posts: 1,264 Forumite
    hey nikj - have you got something against us sparks then? I'd love to see your wiring skills......
  • nickj_2
    nickj_2 Posts: 7,052 Forumite
    fluffpot wrote: »
    hey nikj - have you got something against us sparks then? I'd love to see your wiring skills......

    i haven't got anything against sparks , apart from having to clear up the mess they make , as it happens , i'm in the middle of a job , the sparks were in thursday to move a socket and replace socket fronts, imagine my delight on friday when i returned to find that they hadn't even bothered to make good around the new plug or channelling , had left all the channelling dust on the floor and then left a trail of stuff all over the carpet , off cuts of wire ,empty cardboard boxes etc , who's gonna have to clear it up , muggins of course , however , i'm sure you're not like this ;)
  • fluffpot
    fluffpot Posts: 1,264 Forumite
    of course not - but then I'm sure you're not like most of the decorators I have to deal with (half cut, generally!)

    :)
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,068 Forumite
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    OP, the first person I had to do work in my house was a sparky.

    He, too, didn't discuss the 'making good' part of the job, and I had no prior experience to know that I should discuss it with him. I ended up having to get a plasterer in afterwards.

    I'll never use that particular sparky again - discovered he wasn't Part P registered, and he carelessly took a separate chunk of plaster out of my stairwell ceiling with a ladder and decided not to tell me in the hope I wouldn't notice!

    However, I'm much more clued up for the next time I have invasive work done in my house. You live and learn!!
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