Apple shares - Invest or not invest?

sabretoothtigger

They can just do share buybacks, Im not fussy. Its pointed out that having a 700 dollar share widely held by small investors was asking for trouble. If they just split it down to 70 the stock would be more liquid and tradable less apt to half in price like its doing.
I guess they are more concerned with running the actual business

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/could-british-investors-profit-apple-153000422.html

: S&P 500 has longest winning streak since 2004; 1st close above 1,500 since December 2007

The relative strength index on the S&P is at a decade high. The relative strength index on transports highest since 1989

Camdoon

From my experiences in the past few weeks.

Android phones now have 75% of the market according to Wiki.

I bought 4 Android tablets from Tesco for less than an IPad mini. Probably not as good but at the price..

You could barely get into the Apple shop in Cambridge post Christmas.

Apple need to invent the next big thing to maintain their profit levels.

Thrugelmir

sabretoothtigger wrote: »

They can just do share buybacks,

Apple still has the problem of moving physical cash which is sitting in the books of an overseas subsidiary to another onshore. By doing so would negate all their careful tax planning.

grey_gym_sock

so basically congress could solve this problem by deciding to levy the same tax on US companies' profits regardless of whether they repatriate them. then apple (et al.) would have to pay the tax anyway, so they might as well repatriate the money. problem solved!

Thrugelmir

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

so basically congress could solve this problem by deciding to levy the same tax on US companies' profits regardless of whether they repatriate them. then apple (et al.) would have to pay the tax anyway, so they might as well repatriate the money. problem solved!

Like the UK. The US tax authorities are taking a keen interest in multinationals affairs.

mania112

Camdoon wrote: »

You could barely get into the Apple shop in Cambridge post Christmas.

Apple need to invent the next big thing to maintain their profit levels.

Aren't those two opposing statements?

rockitup

gadgetmind wrote: »

There is certainly volatility to take your breath away, but as long as you're not a perpetual johnny come lately, there is a lot of money to be made.

Tech shares bought me my house, cars, ISAs, pensions, and much much more. They still scare the hell out of me, and then a few weeks later put a smile on my face (rinse and repeat) but I'm afraid that I'll probably always have a good 20% of my portfolio in directly-held tech shares.

Since November I've been spread betting Apple using a 1 minute chart for entry/exit and a 5 minute chart for checking trend. Only betting small amount per point for grabbing a bit of spending money.

Had a good percentage of wins with trades generally lasting no longer than 20 minutes but Friday's trade lasted 15 seconds :eek:

That volatility is great but I would never want to hold AAPL overnight... too scary

gadgetmind

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

congress could solve this problem by deciding to levy the same tax on US companies' profits regardless of whether they repatriate them

They would quickly find that there were very few US companies left to tax, just overseas companies with US subsidiaries.

grey_gym_sock

gadgetmind wrote: »

They would quickly find that there were very few US companies left to tax, just overseas companies with US subsidiaries.

the UK already does something similar. with no sign of that happening.

don't get me wrong. ideally, i think country of incorporation should be irrelevant for tax purposes. but sometimes you have to consider how the rules work now, and ask what is the least bad change to make.

gadgetmind

grey_gym_sock wrote: »

the UK already does something similar. with no sign of that happening.

No sign? Really?

I guess Luxembourg and Ireland appeal to multinationals because of the weather rather than their more business-friendly tax rates.

Tax is complicated and knee-jerk "make them pay!" responses tend to have consequences other than what was intended.

http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/howtaxes.asp