Silly question?

Back_2_Black

I have already requested my whole Deposit back from DPS and the Landlord has objected.

The check-in report states every room was professional cleaned.
The check-out report states every room was domesticly cleaned.

The Landlord wants to charge for the differance!

Fire_Fox

The landlord has to prove that your domestic clean was not up to the standard of the professional clean. £1500 for cleaning is outrageous unless you left the place a tip. Are there photographs of the place before and after?

Again what were the dates on the notice to quit, were they really two months and one day or did you overstay by one day?

FireWyrm

Your LL ahsnt got a leg to stand on. Start the dispute immediately and write a robust defence including your photos as to why you believe that the inventory accurately represents the situation as you left it. The whole 'professional cleaning' scam is just that, a scam, they cant enforce it and it relies on you being unaware of your rights. Clean is clean and unless the LL can PROVE a necessary material expense that is reasonable, he's just plain up the creek without a paddle.

This does however rely on you fighting your corner. Personally, I had a LA do the same thing to me for a similar amount, and I got it all back. I wasn't going tolet them walk away with my £1400 either.

Back_2_Black

Thank you for all your help.

Only about £650 is claimed for cleaning.

I was e-mailed the notice to quit, and was told by the Landlord what day I had to hand over the keys. I moved out the week before, as there was problems with the 1930's wiring and a leak that the Landlord would not fix until after I had handed back the keys.
He is claiming I should contribute towards repairing the leak as well, but I have e-mails to prove he would not fix the leak whilst I was living there.

FireWyrm

Back_2_Black wrote: »

Thank you for all your help.

Only about £650 is claimed for cleaning.

I was e-mailed the notice to quit, and was told by the Landlord what day I had to hand over the keys. I moved out the week before, as there was problems with the 1930's wiring and a leak that the Landlord would not fix until after I had handed back the keys.
He is claiming I should contribute towards repairing the leak as well, but I have e-mails to prove he would not fix the leak whilst I was living there.

He 'emailed' you the notice to quit...so you never actually HAD a Section 21? oh, dear...sucks to be him then.

As for the 'leak', that's his problem, not yours but do be sure to address that one in your defence letter.

So, what about the balance of the money, what else is he claiming for if only £650 is cleaning?

Werdnal

Not much help to you now, but sounds like the email the LL sent you was not even a valid notice. The LL cannot serve a notice to quit on a tenant (only the other way around). Unless he served a valid, written notice under Section 21 of the Housing Act, word and dated correctly, you had no reason to leave at all. Even if he had got the notice correct, LL would need to give you 2 months to leave voluntarily (you don't actually need to as the notice does not end the tenancy), then apply to court to make you leave.

However, sounds as if you are better off without this LL as they obviously do not have a clue about running a letting property or their repairing obligations. Good luck with your deposit claim!

FireWyrm

Werdnal wrote: »

Not much help to you now, but sounds like the email the LL sent you was not even a valid notice. The LL cannot serve a notice to quit on a tenant (only the other way around). Unless he served a valid, written notice under Section 21 of the Housing Act, word and dated correctly, you had no reason to leave at all. Even if he had got the notice correct, LL would need to give you 2 months to leave voluntarily (you don't actually need to as the notice does not end the tenancy), then apply to court to make you leave.

However, sounds as if you are better off without this LL as they obviously do not have a clue about running a letting property or their repairing obligations. Good luck with your deposit claim!

Hey, I'd use it in the dispute process. Goes to show what an underhanded to$$er he is. Be sure to point it out to the adjudicator who will almost certainly be wondering what else he's done to you that illegal and unenforceable.

Werdnal

FireWyrm wrote: »

Hey, I'd use it in the dispute process. Goes to show what an underhanded to$$er he is. Be sure to point it out to the adjudicator who will almost certainly be wondering what else he's done to you that illegal and unenforceable.

Sure, might help OP's case over the deposit by proving he is incompetent, but DPS are not likely to be remotely interested in any of the LLs other wrong-doings. They are not in business to enforce LL legislation, only manage deposits.

Fire_Fox

Back_2_Black wrote: »

Thank you for all your help.

Only about £650 is claimed for cleaning.

I was e-mailed the notice to quit, and was told by the Landlord what day I had to hand over the keys. I moved out the week before, as there was problems with the 1930's wiring and a leak that the Landlord would not fix until after I had handed back the keys.
He is claiming I should contribute towards repairing the leak as well, but I have e-mails to prove he would not fix the leak whilst I was living there.

Threads become really hard work if we have to ask the same questions over and over.

What is LL proposing deductions for? Cleaning, leak and nothing else?
Are there photographs of the place before and after?
What were the dates on the notice to quit, were they really two months and one day or did you overstay by one day?

G_M

A water leak, unless you caused damage to cause the leak (which the LL would have to prove) is not your responsibility.

Defend this deduction as well as the cleaning claim.