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NHS should provide retirement housing
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If you are 40 something or younger be nice to your children.
They will not choose your retirement home.
Your tretirement home will be their home.Si Deus pro nobis quis contra nos?0 -
I think it is time the extended family made a comeback. My nan lived with us from when I was three and for a large part of my childhood she provided some care to us chidren whilst my mum worked, then latterly we lookd after her, she then moved to my aunts and although an inpatient in her last few days was never sent to a nursing home.
A downside was that for most of the years she lived with us I shared a bedroom with her and until my sisters were old enough to leave home as we were a family of Mum & Dad plus four children in a 3 bedroomed house.
Not a solution for everyone, but not tragic if it can be seen as a good thing and more of a social norm again.
You're right that that's part of the solution, I'm sure.
However, it's not all of it. Elderly people like that who are basically competent are not the main problem. The biggest problem is when old people get to the stage where they are no longer fit to be left unsupervised for more than a few minutes. Few families are able to provide that level of care. My dad did it for my mum for 3 years (coping with her dementia, Parkinsonism, and colostomy), with some visiting carers to help, but he had to give up everything to be there 24/7 apart from a few hours here and there of respite care. When he had to go into hospital himself for a few weeks, there was no alternative but for her to go into a care home. If he ends up needing that level of care himself in a few years' time, I can't see any family members being able to do it for more than a very short time, so a care home will once again be the only possibility.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
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Loughton_Monkey wrote: »Phew!!!!!!
A brave statement. You'll be accused of being a 'boomer' soon. As you know, that means we had everything handed to us on a plate. Untold wealth just stuck to us whatever we did.
Us boomers are social pariahs. Our sin was to spread 40-odd years of salary over 70-odd years of life. Apparently that makes us social outcasts these days....
Never ever have I had anything handed to me on a plate. Ha, I wish. I worked from age 15 till I was 62, (female) with only 2 x 1 year off for children. This is how I own my house, have a small private pension, I, me, myslelf paid for it.
Nobody could accuse a lot of us grafters about taking the pee.make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.0 -
Oh, a good 40 years I reckon. If you don't look after your body, why should the family get a rebate? Same with bad genes that cause cancer early, it may be unpleasant to think about but it's natures way of removing that genetic weakness from continuing. Who are we to nark around with that process?
Unless they solve dementia, I don't particularly fancy living past 75 anyway.
:rotfl::rotfl:
I can almost guarantee, when you get to 74, you will. :rotfl:make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.0 -
Never ever have I had anything handed to me on a plate. Ha, I wish. I worked from age 15 till I was 62, (female) with only 2 x 1 year off for children. This is how I own my house, have a small private pension, I, me, myslelf paid for it.
Nobody could accuse a lot of us grafters about taking the pee.
You didn't pay enought tax to earn a state pension. When I use you, I mean the collective you, ie your generation. You personally could have paid far more tax than most.
Law of averages says you didn't pay enough tax though.0 -
When and why did they close the geriatric hospitals?
It's not that long ago that our city had two geriatric hospitals which took in all the elderly patients who needed care rather the medical attention.
When my grandparents were ill (30+ years ago), they spent the first period in the proper hospital getting treatment and then they were shipped to the geriatric hospital to get basic care until they were well enough to go back home.
Now, with my parents and in laws in the last decade, they've been stuck for longer periods of time in the last remaining town hospital "blocking" beds that were no doubt needed for other ill people, until well enough to be released to go back home.
Where and why did it go so wrong??0 -
.....Law of averages says you didn't pay enough tax though.....
Interesting concept...
I think most of us would argue that we paid more than enough tax. Most of us would argue that our precious so-called governments have been spending rather more than they could reasonably raise in taxes.0 -
When and why did they close the geriatric hospitals?
It's not that long ago that our city had two geriatric hospitals which took in all the elderly patients who needed care rather the medical attention.
When my grandparents were ill (30+ years ago), they spent the first period in the proper hospital getting treatment and then they were shipped to the geriatric hospital to get basic care until they were well enough to go back home.
Now, with my parents and in laws in the last decade, they've been stuck for longer periods of time in the last remaining town hospital "blocking" beds that were no doubt needed for other ill people, until well enough to be released to go back home.
Where and why did it go so wrong??
They were closed because it's too expensive to keep people in hospital if they could be looked after in the community, all these kinds of convalescent beds have gone with the emphasis on providing care in the patient's own home instead and keep people out of hospital, however, community care just hasn't been provided for either and funds have been cut so this is why we now have the 'bed blocking' you mentionAug GC £63.23/£200, Total Savings £00 -
Loughton_Monkey wrote: »Interesting concept...
I think most of us would argue that we paid more than enough tax. Most of us would argue that our precious so-called governments have been spending rather more than they could reasonably raise in taxes.
....In services your generation enjoyed at the time. I don't remember anyone saying 'cut hospital beds or school places because otherwise our children will be having to work twice as hard to pay our pensions we expect'0
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