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Really confused, husband may have to give up work??!!

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  • LeeLee81
    LeeLee81 Posts: 9 Forumite
    edited 5 November 2012 at 2:32AM
    thank you everyone
  • kj*daisy
    kj*daisy Posts: 490 Forumite
    I hope the rheumatologist can help him, but it may be the wrong hint to voluntarily stop work. From what I can see if he stops and improves as hes not being aggravated, then the endless ESA assessments will probably find him OK to work again at some stage, and will expect him to do anything. He is probably better staying put and if necessary being off sick, and get advice from the union. I just read on here how so many people who are very unwell are found fit to work by ATOS, even though they really aren't. I really hope things improve for him pain wise soon.
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  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    given the fact he works and does so unaided I think DLA would be hard, therefore no carers.

    you may get ESA - but how that will end up is noones guess. You'd be looking at a huge reduction in salary. Try to work it out where he stays and use this as a last resort.

    Do you not want to own your home, give your children savings etc. none of that will be possible on benefits. Try everything before you go down this route, with PIP on the horizon and costs for council Tax etc, it will be harder than you think.
  • ive not read this fully attention span is playing me up to being very limited in what i can retain.

    leaving due to illhealth is sanstionable with regards to benefits.

    OH and his employer would have to seek beyond reasonable doubt that his consition affects him to carry out his daily job.

    his employer would have to send him for OT assessment, there maybe a job in the office where he is able to mobilise himself better and frequesntly by reccomendation of OT.

    if there isnt such position, and OT and Employers doctor or outside specialist says that the job is detrimental to his health and lives of others then the employer is duly bound to relinquish your OH contract due to illhealth.

    Now, this is the bit benefits like to sink their teeth into and will do thorough checking with OH employer.

    after being released from contract you OH can claim ESA (WCA handbook is a handy read ) and DLA depending on his care and mobility needs.

    basically if the employer has no other job title available, OT, agree that the job he is in is making his condition worse and that his GP specialist are in agreement that the role is possibly life threatning to others ( take the pain and the concertration levels along with stiffness or spasms in control of train going 60MPH) and his own life, then there enough evidence to release from contract and not get sanctioned by ESA or anyone else.

    a decision like this should be fully thought out.

    if he has health insurance, see if they will pay for specialist treatment, such a chiropractor. if not get on the NHS waiting list and to the GP for specific pain killers anti inflamatorys, physio and so on, explore all avenues to get him back to health physicaly mentally with PTSD councelling should have been provided through his employment, even years down the line he can still ask for that help if its affecting him now.
  • Just wondering if your husband has had an MRI of head and neck , it's about the only thing that will show a trapped nerve, which is possibly the cause of the numbness?

    Neither Co-codamol nor tramodol relieve nerve pain very successfully.Usually Gabapentin or Amityrptiline is used but could affect ability to drive a train, so maybe not much use.

    You see many failed Atos assements and questions about how to appeal on forums like this, in relation to people with bad back and neck problems etc, so it may be a stressful road to travel. Especially if there's no firm medical diagnosis and report to back up the problem.

    Some posts may seem a bit unhelpful to you, but people are jsut trying to advise you of any other alternatives.Financial support for ill health related benefits and all benefits for that matter are being drastically cut and in some cases are very hard to get.

    Can someone give the OP the ESA rates payable for a couple?
  • ESA couple rates - Wrag = £111.45 a week and Support group £166.80 for income related - but that is just the basic. If on income related you get help with mortgage interest on original capital purchase amount of your house at 3.63% - waiting time is 13 weeks. You would get free school meals, help with NHS costs inc dental/eyes and prescriptions. You'd get what is called cold weather payments and a £10 christmas bonus. You would qualify for the warm home discount scheme with your energy supplier, but not much time left for this year as closing date is 21st December with last payments by March next year. However it would be a huge drop in income and you do need to think it through before going down that route. ESA is hard to get at the best of times. I was lucky and got it first time. But then I am ill with an incurable illness that is getting worse as time goes on at the moment. It may if I am lucky go into remission - it may not.
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    Obviously all this help wasn't what the OP actually wanted!
  • sunnyone
    sunnyone Posts: 4,716 Forumite
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    mumps wrote: »
    I found a chiropractor really helped me, unfortunately it is not for everyone. My husband has severe back problems, much worse than I had, he was warned not to let anyone try to manipulate it in any way. Even the physio at the hospital where he was being treated wouldn't touch him.

    I have spinal injuries and my spinal unit tells us all never to go near chiropractors as many are untrained quacks who dont have a clue about bad backs, and even the "trained" ones can cause irriversable damage when you have spinal injuries.
  • clemmatis
    clemmatis Posts: 3,168 Forumite
    sunnyone wrote: »
    I have spinal injuries and my spinal unit tells us all never to go near chiropractors as many are untrained quacks who dont have a clue about bad backs, and even the "trained" ones can cause irriversable damage when you have spinal injuries.

    Chiropractic, like osteopathy, is regulated in the UK, people should go to a registered one. Oh, and get recommendations first. Unlike (most) osteopaths, they have X-rays done for new patients.

    Osteopaths have been better for me.

    I wouldn't see any old osteopath/chiropractor but nor would I register with any old GP.

    Many orthodox doctors know !!!!!! all about bad backs. The only ones who have helped me (one NHS GP, one private one) were also osteopaths.

    An NHS physio I pushed to be referred to was best.

    But it is true that certain chiropractic techniques can be dangerous even when carried out by trained and regulated chiropractors.
  • mumps
    mumps Posts: 6,285 Forumite
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    edited 5 November 2012 at 8:42PM
    Given he as been able to father another child whilst having the condition then preumably he is not unable to do everything.

    Given that we do not know anything about the conception of the younger child (and it is none of our business) I think this is out of order. Severely disabled men can father children with medical help and you can use positions that make things possible for men with problems that would make the missionary position (for example) impossible. I used to work with someone who was in a bodycast when he fathered his child, he found people's reactions hysterical when he returned to work and announced his wife was six months pregnant. You could see people doing the arithmetic and then looking amazed, puzzled or shocked depending on their take on it.
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