Child Benefit Farce

Equaliser123

BobQ wrote: »

Nothing to add, just wanted to repeat your excellent comment.

TWH will no doubt be along later to call it lefty nonsense.:)

If you look at the "excellent" quote you would notice that the poster can increase salary sacrifice and is therefore unaffected.

I'm not sure the stuff about the disabled, the sick and the dying is actually comparing apples and apples. Sounds more of a rant than an "excellent comment".

Zero_Sum

Equaliser123 wrote: »

Sorry but unless you are in the top 35% of earners you are a net beneficiary.

again, please tell me how? I reckon I'll pay around £10k pa in taxes. There's no way I currently use that level of services & the way things are going, won't get much back in the way of state pension benefits either.

Zero_Sum

Equaliser123 wrote: »

Sorry but unless you are in the top 35% of earners you are a net beneficiary.

Just had another thought, when I say I earn average, thats average FT equivalent. As I got pulled up on the few days ago & the actual average (which includes PT wages) is about 20% less, so it my actually put me around the top 40%. You're 35% will be based on average across the board, the average person will have a child, and as such recoup back 000's I don't.

The_White_Horse

BobQ wrote: »

Nothing to add, just wanted to repeat your excellent comment.

TWH will no doubt be along later to call it lefty nonsense.:)

it's drivel. pathetic lefty drivel. first (for the umpteenth billionth time - keep up lefties) i am not moaning about losing it (although of course I would rather keep it as it is my money). my main gripe is the unfairness of people on 60k losing it and those on 99k keeping it.

and, a party being taxed for the claims of a third party. it is almost russian. stalin would do this.

this is a hamfisted attempt to look populist by that moron osbourne. all he has done is lost loads of votes from middle england. the lefty still hates him because he went to a good school and uni. how dare he.

Zero_Sum

The_White_Horse wrote: »

it's drivel. pathetic lefty drivel. first (for the umpteenth billionth time - keep up lefties) i am not moaning about losing it (although of course I would rather keep it as it is my money). my main gripe is the unfairness of people on 60k losing it and those on 99k keeping it.

and, a party being taxed for the claims of a third party. it is almost russian. stalin would do this.

this is a hamfisted attempt to look populist by that moron osbourne. all he has done is lost loads of votes from middle england. the lefty still hates him because he went to a good school and uni. how dare he.

see post #177

People hate Gideon as he's useless & only in the job because of the old boys network, being pally with Cameron

Rochdale_Pioneers

TWH - you want to take benefits off people. Congratulations, your government has listened and is therefore taking benefits off people - you to be specific. Democracy in action, a government responsive to the will of the people etc.

wotsthat

Zero_Sum wrote: »

again, please tell me how? I reckon I'll pay around £10k pa in taxes. There's no way I currently use that level of services & the way things are going, won't get much back in the way of state pension benefits either.

I assume you expect A&E to be ready if you have a car crash, the police to turn up if you're assaulted etc. etc..

I'm guessing, but there are charts available, that £10k of taxes makes it marginal whether you're a net tax payer or not. It depends on what family you've got but surprisingly few people are actually net tax payers.

Zero_Sum

wotsthat wrote: »

I assume you expect A&E to be ready if you have a car crash, the police to turn up if you're assaulted etc. etc..

I'm guessing, but there are charts available, that £10k of taxes makes it marginal whether you're a net tax payer or not. It depends on what family you've got but surprisingly few people are actually net tax payers.

which is the general gist of my argument. I don't have Children.
Yes there's many services out there I could use, but for whatever reason I don't/haven't.

Rochdale_Pioneers

Anyway, what we have here is a government taking money off the poor people, peons, irrelevant workshy scum. You know, TWH. And its leaving money with the well off. Better people. THEIR people. Not scrounging paupers like TWH demanding their handouts from people earning more than they are.

Now if we set this policy on a political spectrum it clearly sits on the right. Its not a leftist policy, they tend to take money off rich people and give it to !!!!less scroungers like TWH. So when TWH bleats about it being leftist he has missed the point.

According to this government he is a worthless benefit scrounger sponging off his betters, people who work hard for a living being asked by people like TWH to subsidise their children. What we have here is the simple reality that the government see TWH as leftist scum, the very kind of person that so exercises TWH. Oh dear, how far the deranged have fallen....

BobQ

Equaliser123 wrote: »

If you look at the "excellent" quote you would notice that the poster can increase salary sacrifice and is therefore unaffected.

I'm not sure the stuff about the disabled, the sick and the dying is actually comparing apples and apples. Sounds more of a rant than an "excellent comment".

I was referring to the bit in bold.

Originally Posted by Rochdale Pioneers
TWH - I'm in a very situation to you. I earn, my wife doesn't, we're waiting for the letter telling us to do self assessment. In my case I can increase pension contributions or childcare vouchers a touch to bob back under the threshold. I agree with you that the situation is utterly stupid and grossly unfair.

However, where we differ is that unlike you I don't wage a one-man fatwa against people on benefits. Unlike you I recognise that however unfair I may consider the child benefits rule change to be, it is NOTHING to compared to how unfairly this government is treating the disabled, the sick, the dying, and the truly poor. Or that the government does so cheered on by people like you.

Anyway, I am cheered in one thing. When the man who complains about people getting benefits complains about losing his benefits, you truly appreciate just how selfish, insular and downright stupid people like you truly are.

Sorry not make it clear. The excellence of the comment is of course my opinion.