Really Worried that I Will be Dismissed? Any Advice??

Mischa8

LegalSec wrote: »

dizzyrascal wrote: »

Just out of interest, did the trainee solicitor get disciplined too or was it just the OP.

The Trainee Solicitor made the complaint against me and I received a verbal warning. I appealed against it arguing that she was to blame but the appeal was rejected.

Oh dear. So not only have you had a verbal warning for a complaint (see above) but you appealed against it AND argued that she (the trainee solicitor) was to blame. No wonder your appeal was rejected. If I were you when you had had the complaint I would not have appealed against it, I would have taken it on the chin and marked it down to experience.

It looks as if your worst case scenario is FWW but based on the evidence so far, you seem to have a problem and maybe with other females?? I would suggest that your company may not want to go down the route of employing you as you appear to be argumentative and not being meek/taking warnings etc.

It would be well for you to realise that you are support staff here with all that entails and your conduct comes into play here. Good luck.

dandelionclock30

Why should someone be meek? thats not right, surely someone should fight their corner if they havent done something.
Just because someone is in a support role doesnt mean to say they are less worthy of politeness than higher grade employees. Everyone is entitled to respect at work.
OP I personally doubt they will sack you based on this as they would be on dodgy ground in my opinion. The least thing they would want is being taken to an ET.
It sounds however that you are unhappy in this job, if your getting snappy then you need to think if its for you.Perhaps you would be better off in a different company doing a different role. Also being on a final written warning is no walk in the park, because they can then sack you for the smallest thing. I think you need to get out of there.

Mischa8

dandelionclock30 wrote: »

Why should someone be meek? thats not right, surely someone should fight their corner if they havent done something.
Just because someone is in a support role doesnt mean to say they are less worthy of politeness than higher grade employees. Everyone is entitled to respect at work.
OP I personally doubt they will sack you based on this as they would be on dodgy ground in my opinion. The least thing they would want is being taken to an ET.
It sounds however that you are unhappy in this job, if your getting snappy then you need to think if its for you.Perhaps you would be better off in a different company doing a different role. Also being on a final written warning is no walk in the park, because they can then sack you for the smallest thing. I think you need to get out of there.

OK - maybe meek was the wrong word. I meant respectful of where/who she worked with.

Sacking is for gross misconduct - in most employers' T&C of employment this would come under *swearing* etc. You could get fired if you told your colleague to "F off" or used other profanities in speech to them.

As for fighting their corner if they haven't done something - if it's in relation to being rude to the client then company has to take on board if they want to the past verbal warning etc as well as current scenario. Where I was saying she shouldn't have appealed was in relation to the Trainee Solicitor complaining against OP and the OP HAD done something in that case, so therefore why should she appeal and argue her case?? In that case OP had been *arguing* with a superior and it seems as if OP seemed to think that arguing was acceptable behaviour, which generally it isn't, in an office.

Lots of offices especially solicitors as I said before have a hierarchy structure, that's the way it is, you either deal with it or you don't.

dizzyrascal

Mischa8 wrote: »

OK - maybe meek was the wrong word. I meant respectful of where/who she worked with.

Sacking is for gross misconduct - in most employers' T&C of employment this would come under *swearing* etc. You could get fired if you told your colleague to "F off" or used other profanities in speech to them.

As for fighting their corner if they haven't done something - if it's in relation to being rude to the client then company has to take on board if they want to the past verbal warning etc as well as current scenario. Where I was saying she shouldn't have appealed was in relation to the Trainee Solicitor complaining against OP and the OP HAD done something in that case, so therefore why should she appeal and argue her case?? In that case OP had been *arguing* with a superior and it seems as if OP seemed to think that arguing was acceptable behaviour, which generally it isn't, in an office.

Lots of offices especially solicitors as I said before have a hierarchy structure, that's the way it is, you either deal with it or you don't.

If you read my post you will see that the hierarchy does not always support the lower ranks getting punished and people don't have to put up or shut up just because the person is more "senior" to them.
Respect is a two way thing. If anything a more senior or more qualified person should be able to be the better person.
As some have pointed out. Being on the frontline with clients can be very stressful and they can be rude, demanding and difficult to deal with.
If the senior staff do not appreciate the conditions that their support staff have to deal with then they are poor managers (IMO)

sorcerer

torbrex wrote: »

As above - Of course they can

I was assaulted while doing my job and got dismissed for it, the customer is always right and there is virtually nothing you can say in your own defense unless you have a witness.

Could somebody tell my bank this please! :rotfl:

makeyourdaddyproud

You are doomed you can't beat the recruitment system.

A good reference has now evaporated. Your word against someone elses doesn't look palatable.

Mitigation in this example is simply diluting your problem.

Move on, learn from it and simply apply for your next role as it is, tell them the truth if asked and you will be fine.

Otherwise don't fret about it, your stress levels will simply rise.

Regards.

Mischa8

makeyourdaddyproud wrote: »

You are doomed you can't beat the recruitment system.

A good reference has now evaporated. Your word against someone elses doesn't look palatable.

Mitigation in this example is simply diluting your problem.

Move on, learn from it and simply apply for your next role as it is, tell them the truth if asked and you will be fine.

Otherwise don't fret about it, your stress levels will simply rise.

Regards.

How can you say a good reference has now evaporated?

The one thing I think OP could do here was suggest anger/stress management course (as OP like a few others here seems determined to fight her corner whether in wrong or not.

Whether people like it or not after this (which resulted in FWW) bosses like to see remorse/improvement.

This "may" result in a better reference.

makeyourdaddyproud

Really? There are already far too many jobseekers out there with her skills for an employer to risk a punt and hire her with that "baggage", however you dress it up.

dandelionclock30

Yes people with baggage might as well throw themselves in the canal now then.
Plenty of people in this womans position will get another job, she just has to work her final written warning off. Also plenty of people who go to prison even get jobs eventually.
So some employers clearly are open minded and are taking a punt.

makeyourdaddyproud

I totally agree that most people whatever background get jobs. But then these employers aren't law firms, and I doubt the OP will take an ersatz role either.