Told to do night shifts when not contracted to

System

annie1975 wrote: »

Usually when you do a night shift you [STRIKE]should[/STRIKE] hope to get a higher rate of pay but there is no guarantee.

Corrected for you

Kavanne

At my company we get an extra fixed payment for working nights, it's only about £30 a night but I am not sure if companies have to pay this?

LittleVoice

Kavanne wrote: »

At my company we get an extra fixed payment for working nights, it's only about £30 a night but I am not sure if companies have to pay this?

That's your employer.
There is no UK law that people have to be paid more for working nights - they could be paid less.

miduck

Anarchist wrote: »

Team player?

How is your employer, bidding for a package of work that only you can do, without asking you or taking your status into account, then forcing you to do night shifts (threatening to remove your bonuses which you've bent over backwards for eleven months to earn) which you aren't contracted to do, and ever even expected in your chosen career to do - being a 'team'?

A team involves everybody working at something. This is exploitation of a couple of members of staff to earn the company a fortune which they are not willing to offer any remuneration to the people who are actually expected to screw themselves over to carry out the work.

I don't know what type of unskilled labour you do miduck, but you're obviously lacking any self worth or responsibility whatsoever, if you think it's fine to just blindly do whatever your employer tells you without questioning it. But as long as you're happy trying to make yourself feel better by sitting on forums trying to bully people, that's all fine.

Thanks sambucus and misssarah, I have a meeting to go through details of this, this morning

You claim to be in a specialist role. If you are suggesting someone else should share the workload, why not share your skills with them? Or perhaps they could just find someone with a more flexible attitude?

As for your comment as to my work, hilarious, I have not done "unskilled labour" for the best part of twelve years. I am certainly no walkover at work, and whilst I do get to decide my own hours, I would have no problem working a few nights if it helped the business. After all, who is going to be the one that looks good when it comes to promotion/ bonus time - the one that is willing to be flexible, or you with your "work to rule" attitude?

MissSarah1972 wrote: »

So do a lot of people on here. Yes lucky you have a job but not lucky to be taken for a ride I say.

"Taken for a ride" because your employer wants you to change your hours for a few days? Remind me how long you have been unemployed for?

System

I can not believe that the OP is so inflexible that they consider scuppering a large contract for their company and possibly their own job because 'they know their rights'.

Pigmyhippo

!!!!!! wrote: »

I can not believe that the OP is so inflexible that they consider scuppering a large contract for their company and possibly their own job because 'they know their rights'.

And I cannot believe that the company is so inflexible that they would consider scuppering a large contract for themselves for the sake of giving a cash incentive to the employee to change their contractual working hours.

Sambucus_Nigra

!!!!!! wrote: »

I can not believe that the OP is so inflexible that they consider scuppering a large contract for their company and possibly their own job because 'they know their rights'.

And if it's a new contract the company are getting paid for it so why aren't they passing this onto the staff?

anamenottaken

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

And if it's a new contract the company are getting paid for it so why aren't they passing this onto the staff?

And they lose a contract so reduce his pay? Perhaps they did lose a big contract and this replaces it? Did they they reduce his pay pending this new contract? (We don't know whether it is additional or replacement work for the company, only that it is new.)

They aren't asking him to do more work, only shift the time for a couple of days.

Anarchist

miduck wrote: »

I have not done "unskilled labour" for the best part of twelve years. I am certainly no walkover at work

then why don't you try acting like it. The rest of your post is irrelevant. If you're such a grown up, try acting like it, instead of parading yourself around forums, trying to troll people. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.

!!!!!! wrote:

I can not believe that the OP is so inflexible that they consider scuppering a large contract for their company and possibly their own job because 'they know their rights'.

Original reply goes to you, too.

I'm annoyed because they have just demanded this of me with no say in the matter. They have made zero effort to find out my situation in this, they have made zero effort to include me in the decisions, zero effort to offer any sort of recompense for doing it, and have had a zero response to any sort of attempt at negotiating, instead threatening with removing bonuses that have taken eleven months of hard work to earn.

I've done shifts for breakdowns in the past for them where I've started 8am, and have worked through to 4am, only to get up again for 8am. But I've always been paid for them, and have been given extra time off/late starts/early finishes as I needed as well. Due to the obvious intervention of a new project manager, I am being offered nothing this time, other than threats.

The same project manager is also trying to change my working days, from Monday-Friday, to wednesday-Sunday, so that they do not have to pay me time and half overtime on Saturdays and sundays, when we have quite a lot of weekend work coming up.

Anarchist

anamenottaken wrote: »

And they lose a contract so reduce his pay? Perhaps they did lose a big contract and this replaces it? Did they they reduce his pay pending this new contract? (We don't know whether it is additional or replacement work for the company, only that it is new.)

They aren't asking him to do more work, only shift the time for a couple of days.

It is additional, extra work. The company will be earning an extra additional £x00,000 for servicing it than what they were doing before.. Why would you presume it was to replace lost work, when I mentioned nothing of the sort? Other than to try and reinforce an invalid arguement with even more invalid points?