car seizures by police for no insurance

Jamie_Carter

Wig wrote: »

Why not?

For the hundreth time, POLICE DO NOT ENFORCE CIE, CIE IS AS NEAR AS DAMMIT A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN YOU AND THE DVLA. And CIE requires a 21 day notice period before a seizure can be done by DVLA and ONLY by DVLA

WHY ARE YOU LOT ALWAYS RELATING CIE legislation to 165A legislation?


:wall: you can't see the wood for the trees.

Because the police will report you to the DVLA. So it would be a bit stupid for them to release your car and then report you.

Jamie_Carter

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

And if you don't legally need a licence?

Who doesn't legally need a licence???

Jamie_Carter

thenudeone wrote: »

Except that it is.

And you have still failed (despite several requests) to produce a single reference to a piece of legislation to back up your view.

Look it up for yourself

dacouch

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

That is taken direct from their website.

Fact : The Financial Services Authority aka FSA regulates Financial Services including Insurance Companies.

Rover_Driver

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Because the police will report you to the DVLA. So it would be a bit stupid for them to release your car and then report you.

As in post 172 by Wig.

There is no connection between the continuous insurance requirement, and the requirement for insurance for the use of a motor vehicle.

DVLA deal with continuous insurance offences by checking their register of vehicles against the MIB database of insurance. And it is the registered keeper that commits that offence.

Police deal with offences involving the use of motor vehicles without insurance. And it is the driver/user that commits that offence.

They are completely un-related matters and and neither DVLA nor the police report their dealings to each other.

Aretnap

rev_henry wrote: »

No, but its likely to cause increased difficulty to the aggrieved if such a thing does occur. Though having said that I would have thought the uninsured would drive in a poorer manner to law abiding motorists because they don't care...

Surely the uninsured driver drives more carefully than the insured one because he knows that if he has an accident he'll wind up in a shedload of trouble... not to mention landed with a big bill.

Of course in practice uninsured drivers do tend to account for a disproportionate number of accidents - as a group they tend to be less well-off, younger, less well-trained, drive crappier, less roadworthy cars, and have less respect for the law. But that's correlation rather than causation - the fact that you have no insurance does not in itself cause your driving to become worse.

Aretnap

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Now sit back and wait for the "what about this / that / the other" scenarios involving cars appearing at 100mph from side streets, uninsured blind drivers whos guide dogs don't make then stop in time and all those other things you see every single day out on the roads

Of course, in both of those situations the other driver would be clearly at fault, so you could claim off his insurance - no need to make a claim on your own. Except on Planet Jamie you wouldn't be able to, because he was driving illegally, and so therefore his insurance wouldn't have covered him. :wall:

Aretnap

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

Who doesn't legally need a licence???

Anyone who doesn't watch live broadcasts. If you have a big wide screen TV which you use to watch DVDs, play Playstation and watch iPlayer/catch up TV then you don't need a licence.

Aretnap

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

That is taken direct from their website.

Well, the FSA website is down for maintenance at the moment so I can't point you towards any of their many pages on insurance (suggest you just Google "Financial Services Authority insurance" on Monday), but in the meantime I suggest you phone Direct Line (to name just one), and point out that this bit of their website is rubbish

Direct Line general insurance policies are underwritten by U K Insurance Limited. Registered office: The Wharf, Neville Street, Leeds LS1 4AZ. Company registered no. 1179980. U K Insurance Limited is authorised and regulated by the FSA, registered number 202810. The Financial Services Authority's Register can be accessed through www.fsa.gov.uk/Pages/register/

Let us know what they have to say.

PS Aviva don't have a clue either.

dacouch

Aretnap wrote: »

Anyone who doesn't watch live broadcasts. If you have a big wide screen TV which you use to watch DVDs, play Playstation and watch iPlayer/catch up TV then you don't need a licence.

Jamie would state the Big Wide Screen will need a TV Licence if you're not watching live broadcasts on a tv you borrowed from your brother