national Trust deceptive gift aid tactic and hard sell.

ThumbRemote

qetu1357 wrote: »

I actually went to a NT property on Sunday and there was a big clear sign stating the difference between a Gift Aid Admission and a standard admission.

qetu1357 wrote: »

To those who are saying the NT are unethical, frankly you are talking rubbish.

If you don't want to give a donation, say so and say if you don't want to be asked again.

You seem to be under the impression that because you saw the signs and made an informed choice, then everyone else visiting every other NT property is exactly the same.

The OP has already stated they didn't see the signs. Unless you've checked out every NT property in the country you have no idea how prominent or not they were. On top of this the OP was not given the full information verbally either.

hybernia

zagfles wrote: »

. . . . . Also for the NT you can join the New Zealand NT for a much lower price apparently, and that gives you admission to the UK sites https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4026015

BIG thank you to zagfles for that great link: it's just taken me to one of the funniest arguments I've read on MSE in a lonnnnnng time! :beer:

qetu1357

hybernia wrote: »

BIG thank you to zagfles for that great link: it's just taken me to one of the funniest arguments I've read on MSE in a lonnnnnng time! :beer:

Suppose it depends whether you think people ripping off a charity is funny or rather sad and depressing.

hubb

Or a charity ripping off the unsuspecting paying public.

For the record- I do not condone ripping off the NT or any organisation.

qetu1357

hubb wrote: »

Or a charity ripping off the unsuspecting paying public.

For the record- I do not condone ripping off the NT or any organisation.

I don't think any sensible, reasonable person can accuse the NT of "ripping off the unsuspecting paying public".

It is clear on admission that there are two prices - by the big signs where you buy tickets.

It is clear on all their materials - such as their website - there are two prices.

Frankly, most people including myself are quite willing to pay an extra pound each if it means the NT can claim Gift Aid on the whole admission price.

Without GA the standard admission would be more expensive than it is now and without the admission prices we pay they would not be able to preserve so much of our national heritage.

ThumbRemote

qetu1357 wrote: »

It is clear on admission that there are two prices - by the big signs where you buy tickets.

It is clear on all their materials - such as their website - there are two prices.

Once again, it obviously wasn't clear to the OP that there were two prices. They didn't see a sign, and the NT employee was misleading/deceptive in explaining the prices. Others have said the same about the NT employees not explaining the pricing correctly.

qetu1357

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Once again, it obviously wasn't clear to the OP that there were two prices. They didn't see a sign, and the NT employee was misleading/deceptive in explaining the prices. Others have said the same about the NT employees not explaining the pricing correctly.

Well perhaps the OP should take more responsibility.

If I go anywhere, I make sure I either know the price of admission before I go or before I buy.

There is only so much the NT can do to inform.

Pollycat

qetu1357 wrote: »

There is only so much the NT can do to inform.

But did that particular NT property accurately inform?

From what the OP says, I'm not at all sure that they did:

hubb wrote: »

Anyway, after asking to just pay the entrance fee we were told it was £11.00 each. As I was paying he asked if I wanted to sign a gift aid form so they can get tax back. Slight inconvenience I thought but every bit helps so I did. I asked again is this the entrance price and he said yes. Later I discovered that the actual "standard price" was in fact £9.90. I couldn't believe how deceptive the tactics were of this guy. He never once stated that gift aid means giving more money. Isn't it law to state the real price before they go assuming you are paying gift aid ?

qetu1357 wrote: »

Well perhaps the OP should take more responsibility.

I'm very much one who does believe in personal accountability - see my posts on paying for EHIC and on Amazon Prime - and I think lots of people often don't understand what they are signing up to through their own ineptitude.

However, I don't think that Hubb falls into this category, at least in this specific instance.

If I asked what the entrance fee was and was told it was £11.00, I wouldn't expect to find out later that it was really £9.90 and I'd paid an extra £1.10 without any explanation what the extra was for.

ThumbRemote

qetu1357 wrote: »

If I go anywhere, I make sure I either know the price of admission before I go or before I buy.

And one way you find the price of admission is by asking the staff there. Who then deceived the OP - hence the thread.

qetu1357

Pollycat wrote: »

But did that particular NT property accurately inform?

From what the OP says, I'm not at all sure that they did:




I'm very much one who does believe in personal accountability - see my posts on paying for EHIC and on Amazon Prime - and I think lots of people often don't understand what they are signing up to through their own ineptitude.

However, I don't think that Hubb falls into this category, at least in this specific instance.

If I asked what the entrance fee was and was told it was £11.00, I wouldn't expect to find out later that it was really £9.90 and I'd paid an extra £1.10 without any explanation what the extra was for.

The OP obviously thinks she/he hasn't been correctly or adequately informed.

My experience of the NT is they do adequately inform and I don't see what else they could reasonably do to inform more.

My advice to anyone buying anything is to satisy themselves of the price either before or during the purchase.