Anyone else feel this way? Y Generation Living!

jamie11

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

Have you ever seen the eligibility criteria to get State money then? I'm now in the retirement agegroup and have duly retired and, any time I wonder whether I might be eligible for anything on account of my income level (ie too low to pay tax on) I find that the answer is "no" and might well remain "no" even once I reach my (revised) State Pension Age. The very first thing I notice is the comment about not being eligible if having savings of more than £16,000.

Or are you busily making plans to find a way of hiding savings over that level so that you can live off the rest of us?:cool:

What's the matter with you, where have I said I intend to claim anything from the State, I will be able to pay my way after selling up be it renting from a private housing association or possibly buying again, at the moment I think I would like to rent rather than take on another property, where's the problem?

I strongly object to your insinuations.

sinbad182

TopQuark wrote: »

I absolutely do not. I am a working class girl from Birmingham (Erdington if you know it, since you're west midlands-based) and come from a modest family, in addition to having had a variety of low-paid jobs to put myself through university.

What I do look down on are people who have been gifted houses/deposits by their relatives and then somehow consider themselves to be a 'cut above' me and others who rent their homes. Like home ownership is the one and only barometer of acheivement in the UK and b0ll0x to anything else.

I've lost count of the times I've heard people say things like...'yeah, TopQuark might have a PhD but she just rents'. I remember once in the pub, we were talking to a friend of a friend about gardening, as OH is really into it. Said person replied 'but you're only renting, how can you be into gardening?', as if certain hobbies are the rarefied preserve of the mortgaged and home-owners only. So glad I have left the UK and all this kind of nonsense behind me.

:rotfl:

I'd wager a good amount of money that none of those examples ever happened, and you're just making them up to somehow justify the chip on your shoulder you seem to have about people who own their house.

TopQuark

sinbad182 wrote: »

:rotfl:

I'd wager a good amount of money that none of those examples ever happened, and you're just making them up to somehow justify the chip on your shoulder you seem to have about people who own their house.

Place your bet then. And I do have a chip on my shoulder; but not over people who have a mortgage/own their own house (if you read my earlier post, you'll see I'm buying my house outright), but built up over the years to snobbish attitudes like these.

Mummy and Daddy pay your deposit did they?!!

seven-day-weekend

TopQuark wrote: »

I absolutely do not. I am a working class girl from Birmingham (Erdington if you know it, since you're west midlands-based) and come from a modest family, in addition to having had a variety of low-paid jobs to put myself through university.

What I do look down on are people who have been gifted houses/deposits by their relatives and then somehow consider themselves to be a 'cut above' me and others who rent their homes. Like home ownership is the one and only barometer of acheivement in the UK and b0ll0x to anything else.

I've lost count of the times I've heard people say things like...'yeah, TopQuark might have a PhD but she just rents'. I remember once in the pub, we were talking to a friend of a friend about gardening, as OH is really into it. Said person replied 'but you're only renting, how can you be into gardening?', as if certain hobbies are the rarefied preserve of the mortgaged and home-owners only. So glad I have left the UK and all this kind of nonsense behind me.

But I do not do that and neither does my son. Please stop making such unfair assumptions.

I do know Erdington, my husband's stepfather came from there. A Council house if you are interested. My husband himself came from one of the worst Council Estates in our area and I myself was brought up in a mobile home.

We too have left the UK (Spain) but have returned voluntarily, (not forced out before you make another assumption). The money we gave our son came from the sale of that house which originally came indirectly via his grandma, so it should be his money anyway. It's just families helping each other out.

So no silver spoon here either. Although you might need one to remove the massive chip you have on your shoulder.

Can we play nice now please?

sinbad182

TopQuark wrote: »

Place your bet then. And I do have a chip on my shoulder; but not over people who have a mortgage/own their own house (if you read my earlier post, you'll see I'm buying my house outright), but built up over the years to snobbish attitudes like these.

Mummy and Daddy pay your deposit did they?!!

Nope, although they helped out with a little bit of cash for costs etc when I bought my first flat.

Would it suit your agenda better if I said they did though? Then you could add it to the list of made up stories you use to justify your bitter reverse snobbery.

TopQuark

sinbad182 wrote: »

Nope, although they helped out with a little bit of cash for costs etc when I bought my first flat.

Would it suit your agenda better if I said they did though? Then you could add it to the list of made up stories you use to justify your bitter reverse snobbery.

Erm...let me think on that for a picosecond...., no - couldn't give a s**t. :rotfl:

I understand that you are finding it difficult to grasp the idea that these 'stories' are actually real events that happened though. Not much I can do about that, so I won't bother, expect to say that not everyone who posts on internet forums is a troll.

I am bitter though, yes. I find it depressing that attitudes like these exist in the UK today...it's not something I've experienced in any of the other countries I've lived in. I can't really explain it either; perhaps it's related to the UK obsession with home ownership and/or the class system, who knows. I do know that it makes me sad though.

googler

TopQuark wrote: »

SDW, your post smacks of looking down upon those who do rent.

To me, the OP smacks of looking down on anyone who doesn't run their businesses from a pair of laptops, who dares to have a car in order to go further than the centre of the city, and who has the temerity to have any hobbies or leisure interests which cause them to accumulate 'stuff' .....

sinbad182

TopQuark wrote: »

Erm...let me think on that for a picosecond...., no - couldn't give a s**t. :rotfl:

I understand that you are finding it difficult to grasp the idea that these 'stories' are actually real events that happened though. Not much I can do about that, so I won't bother, expect to say that not everyone who posts on internet forums is a troll.

I am bitter though, yes. I find it depressing that attitudes like these exist in the UK today...it's not something I've experienced in any of the other countries I've lived in. I can't really explain it either; perhaps it's related to the UK obsession with home ownership and/or the class system, who knows. I do know that it makes me sad though.

Why did you edit your response with added profanity and an inane smiley? Did you not feel your contribution was moronic enough already?

These attitudes really don't exist on anywhere near the level you're making out. Even if your bizarre (and suspiciously convenient) examples of this prejudice did take place (doubtful) they'd be very much out of the ordinary incidents.

You appear to have a massive chip on your shoulder about people owning homes who you don't feel are entitled to do so. I don't know if this is down to reverse snobbery or an inferiority complex, but it's something you should look at sorting out, as your misplaced bitterness will drive you mad.

TopQuark

I wanted to bring it down to a level you'd be more familiar with to try and help you understand.

I do hope these attitudes don't exist widely, but I can only speak from my own experience. I have a chip on my shoulder about people having mortgages/owning homes (the 2 are not the same thing) AND looking down on those who don't. No inferiority complex, no reverse snobbery (I have more than most people). Just a profound dislike of such attitudes.

I'm not sure why you care so much about my opinion or 'misplaced bitterness'? If it makes you feel superior to look down on others who have less, then rock on.

sinbad182

I don't care that much - remember I wasn't the one that waded into the thread baselessly accusing someone of looking down on renters.

That was you, and with that post you immediately made your bizarre persecution complex clear for all to see. It's very odd and you shouldn't be surprised when it's commented on.