Need to buy a trolly jack

TrickyWicky

Norman_Castle wrote: »

To support the engine when replacing the timing belt a scissor jack will be fine.

Weirdly despite my better judgement I find myself agreeing with you about the use of a scissor jack instead of a hydraullic jack. I think it must be because its got a threaded part that makes you feel it won't slip.. even though most of them use plastic to grip onto the thread

@Joe No my neighbour is known (along with his bro) for putting cars on jacks and leaving them there. One of them even said to me once "To me it's just a tool and can be replaced". Lovely to hear that when he's abusing MY tools after not replacing my trolley jack he broke :mad: Needless to say they didn't get the use of my bigger and better trolley jack or engine crane again. If they're too tight to replace my £20 jack after breaking it they won't replace my more expensive tools will they.

red_eye

Strider590 wrote: »

Because they're cheap and useful in a tight space.

good point

red_eye

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Weirdly despite my better judgement I find myself agreeing with you about the use of a scissor jack instead of a hydraullic jack. I think it must be because its got a threaded part that makes you feel it won't slip.. even though most of them use plastic to grip onto the thread

@Joe No my neighbour is known (along with his bro) for putting cars on jacks and leaving them there. One of them even said to me once "To me it's just a tool and can be replaced". Lovely to hear that when he's abusing MY tools after not replacing my trolley jack he broke :mad: Needless to say they didn't get the use of my bigger and better trolley jack or engine crane again. If they're too tight to replace my £20 jack after breaking it they won't replace my more expensive tools will they.

problem with using a scissor jack is the small jacking platform and you can not move the jack whilst it is taking the weight of the engine so no good if you have an Audi A3 TDi which has an engine mount over the timing belt, you have to jiggle the engine to get the engine mount out of the way

londonTiger

I've seen some 2 tonne jacks made by sealey.

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/1050Cx%20Trolley%20Jack%202Tonne%20Short%20Chassis%205024209118163%201050Cx

Would this be reliably? is Sealey as brand that only manufacturers quality products, or are they like the RAC and they'll stamp their name on any old crap products?

I've bought a rac foot pump and rax torch, both of them broke after light use.

cost almost doubl;e on the official sealey site. http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=4515&productdescription=jack&productcode=&category=1&catgroup=354&catmicrogroup=1407&analysiscode=&requiredresults=16

TrickyWicky

red_eye wrote: »

problem with using a scissor jack is the small jacking platform and you can not move the jack whilst it is taking the weight of the engine so no good if you have an Audi A3 TDi which has an engine mount over the timing belt, you have to jiggle the engine to get the engine mount out of the way

I wouldn't use the jack to hold an engine up like that anyway but for holding up a car I have very stupidly done so (when my neighbour broke my trolley jack).

Like your Audi, my car has a mount over the cambelt setup too. I grab the engine crane and hook that up to the top of the engine instead - 8 ton hydraullic ram on the crane is far stronger than the 3T trolley jack

rxbren

scissor jacks are the worst they are ok for one or two lifts but always show signs of flexing on the screw so become hard to turn which is the last thing you want when having to jack a car up theyre only meant as an emergency way of jacking a car to change a puntured wheel

londonTiger

rxbren wrote: »

scissor jacks are the worst they are ok for one or two lifts but always show signs of flexing on the screw so become hard to turn which is the last thing you want when having to jack a car up theyre only meant as an emergency way of jacking a car to change a puntured wheel

not to mention poor stability

forgotmyname

That £25 sealey jack only lifts 20.5cm 8 inches.

By the time the suspension drops you will probably have the tyres less than 3inches off the ground.
The bigger jack is actually slightly lower to get under lower cars and subframes etc. And will jack 3 inches or so higher.

I can put mine under a towbar and lift both rear wheels high enough to slide ramps under them.

red_eye

londonTiger wrote: »

I've seen some 2 tonne jacks made by sealey.

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/1050Cx%20Trolley%20Jack%202Tonne%20Short%20Chassis%205024209118163%201050Cx

Would this be reliably? is Sealey as brand that only manufacturers quality products, or are they like the RAC and they'll stamp their name on any old crap products?

I've bought a rac foot pump and rax torch, both of them broke after light use.

cost almost doubl;e on the official sealey site. http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?gotonode=ViewProduct&method=mViewProduct&productid=4515&productdescription=jack&productcode=&category=1&catgroup=354&catmicrogroup=1407&analysiscode=&requiredresults=16

all tools are made by someone else even snap on tools are made by someone else

look here for the current sealy promos http://www.sealey.co.uk/PLPageBuilder.asp?id=23&method=mGetGuestHomePage

red_eye

TrickyWicky wrote: »

I wouldn't use the jack to hold an engine up like that anyway but for holding up a car I have very stupidly done so (when my neighbour broke my trolley jack).

Like your Audi, my car has a mount over the cambelt setup too. I grab the engine crane and hook that up to the top of the engine instead - 8 ton hydraullic ram on the crane is far stronger than the 3T trolley jack

engine crane gets in the way and some times a two man job one to move the crain an the other to wiggle the mount out of the way (you cant remove the mount with out lifting the engine) even the over the wings engine beam gets in the way, so the best way is a trolley jack followed by an axle stand and the 2 poster.

the heavy duty trollys are also good for moving car, I have tried with a hobby jack and it broke lol