New boiler installed, i think i've been conned

southcoastrgi

booty40uk wrote: »

No reply then. Just read your other post...............why the hell did you buy any kind of boiler at any price in the first place???????

maybe the title of the thread should be

I've had a new boiler installed & I think i've conned the installer

booty40uk

+1 on that

keystone

Why did OP need tp pay for a boiler to be installed when living with parents? Sounds financially irresponsible and now expects the tradesman to also be financially irresponsible in respect of his family and his business.

Yes, this is the nice version.

Cheers

roddydogs

Like the post who thinks you can get a top gas safe engineer for £25 ph!

ziggyman99

So with £25 an hour your probably going to be earning close to the national minimum wage after you've removed expenses and allowed that not every single hour of the day is chargeable. Is that a fit wage for a highly skilled tradesman? I don't think so.
Plumbers without gas qualifications charge more than that.
If you managed to charge 5hrs a day, 5 days a week for 50 weeks a year (impossible) then that would £31250 a year BEFORE TAX AND EXPENSES. I suggest you try living on that.

C_Mababejive

Its a funny old world isnt it? Why only last year my trusty Golf was due a timing belt change. I phoned my local VW dealers and they wanted around £250 for the job but would be prepared to drop it a bit as it was an older car. My local indie wanted about £150 but do you know...i priced up the parts and a timing belt kit complete with new tensioner came to around £25...

I spent a day in the garage and did it myself.

How dare they try and chagre me an extra £200 for the use of their highly trained mechanics,use of their workshops,tools,equipment,light,heat,wages,pension costs and liability insurances?

Atrocious..

martinsurrey

ziggyman99 wrote: »

So with £25 an hour your probably going to be earning close to the national minimum wage after you've removed expenses and allowed that not every single hour of the day is chargeable. Is that a fit wage for a highly skilled tradesman? I don't think so.
Plumbers without gas qualifications charge more than that.
If you managed to charge 5hrs a day, 5 days a week for 50 weeks a year (impossible) then that would £31250 a year BEFORE TAX AND EXPENSES. I suggest you try living on that.

hmmm the OP paid £1500 for a trainee and a qualified for a day, lets assume the trainee cost £100 a day (its well under that in the real world).

so thats £1400 to the qualified. thats £1,167 before VAT per day. Lets assume he works for 3 chargable days a week for 46 weeks a year (again easily manageable, IF he's got a good reputation, and so worth good money).

Thats £161K a year before tax and expenses, on that he could afford a new set of tools every 3 months, a new van every 12 months, go on every training course going, and still have a personal income of over £100k (before income tax) for 138 chargable days a year.

I'm all for giving tradesmen a decent wage, and I do, but the OP is right to question the rate they've paid for the amount of work they've had done.

diywhynot

A few people on here don't have a clue about the costs of being a qualified trades and have very vivid imaginations.

OP: you agreed to the work, they completed the work, you pay. Next time get quotes and compare. End off.

keystone

diywhynot wrote: »

A few people on here don't have a clue about the costs of being a qualified trades and have very vivid imaginations.

or the costs of running a business irespective of trade or profession.

Cheers

nobile

NVRAM wrote: »

Precisley the reason when we had ours done I had looked around and specified the parts myself.

WB Boiler
WB Wireless Programmer
Drayton TRV's

I too paid £2500 but it was imho a fantastic price and the guys did a cracking job.

In all honesty at any point did you ask what components they were using/fitting? Have they included a filter?

how well did you specify the job to them?

Most people wouldnt have the 1st clue as to what components/parts to buy! Me included!