UKPC Mcdonalds car parking fine-help please!

Rosie1992

I work late in a pub and after work me and a friend visited Mcdonalds drive through then parked in the car park. We'd stayed for just under 2 hours (23:54-01:50) where we were the only vehichle in the car park barring a few staff cars.
I was using my Mam's car at the time so the letter came addressed to her and I stupidly replied to it before reading help forums like these! I stated I didn't believe I wasn't in any breach of contract etc and that It was me driving not my Mam. They continued to write to my Mam stating if she didn't tell them the name and address of driver she would be liable, she refused to do so.
Eventually they started to send me threatening letters saying the fine may be registered as debt against me etc.
Some advice of what to do please??? I don't want to pay them!!!

Coupon-mad

Any private parking ticket is just an impersonation of authority - a scam.

Nothing happens, you and your Mum should have ignored this scam - you have been replying to a firm with a similar agenda to a phishing emailer.

No-one ever comes knocking, they cannot just register a debt or a CCJ, they cannot even touch your credit rating. Please stop worrying about nothing! It doesn't matter if they know who was driving or not, these fake PCNs are NOT enforceable and just rely on their debt collector threatograms to convince otherwise-intelligent people to fall victim to the con and pay them some money.

It's only a matter of ignoring letters and maybe the odd phone call from an office, a call centre. It's really easy to ignore this scam. I have ignored 2 fake PCNs myself already and would collect more for amusement and to cost a PPC money.

Please look at the thread near the top of this parking forum, called 'PPC letter-chains'. Not only does it show you the whole letter chain in preview pictures, so you know what to expect, but it also has a link to a Watchdog clip. A clip where a solicitor is holding a MET parking 'ticket' and shows you exactly what the score is with it!

Third thread from the top tells you what to do now and shows you what letters she/you can ignore from now on, debt collector headed notepaper and all.

Stop taking the bait!

Rosie1992

Thank you!!!:rotfl:

taffy056

It's not a debt, and its nota fine or penalty ! They should have stopped communicating with your mother immediately after finding out who the driver was, now if they start harassing her again then report them to the dvla at an address I can provide. As for yourself stop communicating with them completely and simply ignore them utterly. Despite all the outlandish threats they won't do anything beyond writing threatograms to you.

Rosie1992

taffy056 wrote: »

It's not a debt, and its nota fine or penalty ! They should have stopped communicating with your mother immediately after finding out who the driver was, now if they start harassing her again then report them to the dvla at an address I can provide. As for yourself stop communicating with them completely and simply ignore them utterly. Despite all the outlandish threats they won't do anything beyond writing threatograms to you.

Ok so I shouldn't even reply to them again to tell them to stop harrassing me?

taffy056

Rosie1992 wrote: »

Ok so I shouldn't even reply to them again to tell them to stop harrassing me?

No it just prolongs it, they do the same thing every time and that is 4 - 6 letters from themselves and their powerless debt collectors and often fake solicitors, they may call you if they can get a number. But if you continue to contact them they will think they got a live one will harass you to pay. It's just easier to ignore.

Rosie1992

Ok thank you

RENEGADE_2

Sorry Rosie but if it's a fine then you have to pay it! No way out, I could send you and your mum some flowers and a card of sympathy....




...but then a fine per se is only issued by magistrates, nowhere you will be heading for ignoring these illicit demands!

andy13

Rosie, stop making a meal of it and tell them to burger off!

Confused78

I received a letter from ukpc for parking 8 mins too long in a McDonald's car park. I'm aware the law changed on the 1st of October with the owner now being responsible. I was photographed on the 29th of Sept but the letter was sent out a couple of days ago, after the law change. I don't want to pay and I haven't contacted the company but I'm not sure what to do, any advice would be very gratefully received thanks

pogofish

You can ignore it like before, or if you are offered an appeal to POPLA, you can do that, which costs the scammers twenty-odd quid but binds you to nothing - so you can ignore after that if they don't uphold you!

And the law has not changed - These tickets are still just as illegal as before!

And the photos still have no bearing whatsoever in this context!