tv licence court summons - non resident

Buzby

I would certainly caution against this. The more usual 'not known a this address', is preferable as whether the addressee is 'resident' or not is irrelevant. Furter, to have any weight, it is postman who needs to add the official PO sticker declaring this to make the court admin accept that he return is kosher.

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Buzby wrote: »

The more usual 'not known a this address', is preferable as whether the addressee is 'resident' or not is irrelevant.

It is relevant, because TVL have a policy of not prosecuting people who aren't residents, eg. babysitters.

Further, to have any weight, it is postman who needs to add the official PO sticker declaring this to make the court admin accept that he return is kosher.

No postman is going to attach an "official PO sticker" (whatever one of those is :huh: ), because he/she does not know the addressee isn't a resident of the address.

BTW: I've been returning letters, addressed to previous tenants, with a "ADDRESSEE NOT RESIDENT AT THIS ADDRESS" sticker attached, for the last 3 years.

Gordon_Hose

Someone who isn't resident at the address cannot know whether or not the homeowner/tenant has, or has not, got a TV licence.

There is no way they can prosecute a non-resident for license evasion.

i don't know whether my next door neighbour has a TV licence. Does that make me liable for a summons if I'm caught watching their TV?

stunews

I thought that they wouldn't be able to prosecute a non resident. Problem is that she was living with a friend at the time and doesn't have any evidence of having lived at that address (because of her friends tenancy agreement), however, there is no evidence of her residing at my property either!

They got her name wrong on the summons too, so do we even need to worry about the whole affair?? We're moving out in a couple of weeks - I'm renting the property.

I've posted on the tvl resistance forum, thanks for all your help and advice..

stunews

Cornucopia wrote: »

Yes, this is true.

However, these cases are bad PR for BBC/TVL and they may drop it, if the OP presses them on it.

The OP needs to talk to them, setting out the complaint as it is written here. They can either contact the TVL prosecutions people, or go to the Head of Revenue Management at the BBC.

Who is the OP?

There's only a few days left til the court date, so I'm worried about whether we've left it too late for them to drop it..

Gordon_Hose

stunews wrote: »

I thought that they wouldn't be able to prosecute a non resident. Problem is that she was living with a friend at the time and doesn't have any evidence of having lived at that address (because of her friends tenancy agreement), however, there is no evidence of her residing at my property either!

They got her name wrong on the summons too, so do we even need to worry about the whole affair?? We're moving out in a couple of weeks - I'm renting the property.

I've posted on the tvl resistance forum, thanks for all your help and advice..

I would say it was for THEM to prove she WAS living there and not the other way around.

Although, knowing this countries justice system...

onpoint_2

stunews wrote: »

Who is the OP?

There's only a few days left til the court date, so I'm worried about whether we've left it too late for them to drop it..

You are the 'OP' it stands for Original Poster i.e. the person who started the thread.

Good Luck with sorting it out!

Cornucopia

stunews wrote: »

There's only a few days left til the court date, so I'm worried about whether we've left it too late for them to drop it..

They can drop it at any time up to the point when the verdict is given (and afterwards, through a more complex process).

Make representations to them now, or even in court on the day.

Good luck!

mickaveli2001

If the Summons comes from TV licencing, then simply ignore it. They have no authority to issue a summons. Only the Magistrates court can do so, but even they are as crooked as the Capita Ltd staff (those that work for the BBC) are, who are paid £18+ per successfully completed form, and £21+ for conviction.

So you see, they try to get you in trouble through lies and deceit

If you need any help or info on how to avoid prosecution in the future - Even if you have a TV and pay for no TV licence, then let me know

Kurtis_Blue

mickaveli2001 wrote: »

So you see, they try to get you in trouble through lies and deceit

If you need any help or info on how to avoid prosecution in the future - Even if you have a TV and pay for no TV licence, then let me know

2 weeks ago you were on here asking for advice regarding tvl, now you are a self appointed legal expert and vigilante offering to assist people to break the law.

all this openly on a public forum, stupidity on a monumental scale.