Turning a PC into a MAC

mrochester

Notmyrealname wrote: »

There speaks someone who has never taken either laptop apart side by side and compared them....

I've yet to find one single consumer grade laptop with the same build quality as a Macbook Pro. Once you get to business grade then you're at a similar level but not consumer grade.

The MBP is definitely a sight to behold when you take the bottom panel off!

Entimp

Mr_Toad wrote: »

For much the same reason that people choose anything from clothes to cars. It's not about what you think, it's about what they think and the right choice is personal to each person.

If everyone thought the same we'd all be wearing the same clothes, driving the same car and eating the same food.

My g/card fails on my pc... then I'm able to shop around a buy what I want. The same with any component.

I can shop for 2nd hand parts, new parts, on ebay, local stores, re-use old parts etc.

I get a bigger range of software to choose from, more hardware and IMHO a more reliable OS. I can also build/purchase a machine of parity spec of Apple for half the price.

The software I can choose, well it is about choice. Mac users don't have a hundreth of the software to choose from.

Mac's are not secure... just have a gander at Mac Lion on google.

Apple isn't about choice, it is about a walled garden that doesn't let you out.

mrochester

Entimp wrote: »

My g/card fails on my pc... then I'm able to shop around a buy what I want. The same with any component.

I can shop for 2nd hand parts, new parts, on ebay, local stores, re-use old parts etc.

I get a bigger range of software to choose from, more hardware and IMHO a more reliable OS. I can also build/purchase a machine of parity spec of Apple for half the price.

The software I can choose, well it is about choice. Mac users don't have a hundreth of the software to choose from.

Mac's are not secure... just have a gander at Mac Lion on google.

Apple isn't about choice, it is about a walled garden that doesn't let you out.

You can't choose to build an AIO.

Apple has always been about choice. OSX is really the only viable alternative to Windows. iOS is currently the only viable alternative to Android. And thank goodness we do have Apple to allow us to make those choices.

Entimp

If you are referring to 'All in One', yes you can build laptops and source parts.

You can replace them too.

Win 8 hits PCs, Laptops, Mobile devices and tablets this month. Hopefully it will hit hard enough to make Apple drop it's walled garden.

Win 8 Pro will show that iOS and Android isn't a choice, imho.

mrochester

Entimp wrote: »

If you are referring to 'All in One', yes you can build laptops and source parts.

You can replace them too.

Win 8 hits PCs, Laptops, Mobile devices and tablets this month. Hopefully it will hit hard enough to make Apple drop it's walled garden.

Win 8 Pro will show that iOS and Android isn't a choice, imho.

I've never seen the parts for building an AIO. I have heard of the ability to build your own laptop but nothing like what you can buy from Apple. Windows 8 (in it's RT and Phone flavours) are more walled garden than any previous version of Windows to my knowledge. Choice is no longer about hardware any more, it's all in the software. Hardware is pretty much all at parity now with no major advances occurring.

DevCoder

Windows 8 is by far the worst rendition that Microsoft have produced since vista, and before that ME.

Having worked with the developer previews for the past year and trying to align user interfaces with their new "ideals", i can honestly say that I, as a developer, will not be making any concerted effort to adopt the new Windows 8 UI as I believe it to be counter-intuitive.

The every other version is rubbish statement applies (imho), if we ignore the business (server versioning)

Windows 3 (ok but not TCP stack)
Windows For Workgroups 3.11 (TCP stack gets added)
Windows 95 (ok but horrible problems with BSOD due mainly to their PnP implementation)
Windows 98 (SE) Finally getting PnP correct (almost) and the driver issue (almost) sorted
Windows ME Absolute train wreck of an OS
Windows XP WDM introduces initial headaches but is far better than companies doing proprietary code to access resources
Windows Vista Overbloated, memory hog, wouldnt wish this on my worse enemy. Comes a close second to ME and thats saying something
Windows 7 Decent OS, stable and finally seems to be heading in the right direction.
Windows 8 Yes it has a smaller memory footprint so it can be run on old Asus netbooks but the "kiosk" style front end is probably the worst decision Ive seen MS make. It was the same with the Windows Mobile rendition.

I develop for all 3 (well 4) platforms (Windows, iOS, Linux (including Android) , RIM (Blackberry)) and it's a very close call between the freedom of Linux and the strictness of iOS. In the end I'd rather, as a developer, be governed by Apples approach that all UI should look and behave the same rather than the mis-match of Android for example (although the latest JB coupled with Nexus7 is introducing some good forms of UI governance).

Don't get me started on the MS Surface Tablet

prowla

mrochester wrote: »

You can't choose to build an AIO.

Apple has always been about choice. OSX is really the only viable alternative to Windows.

Actually, Linux (eg. Ubuntu) is perfectly viable.

mrochester

prowla wrote: »

Actually, Linux (eg. Ubuntu) is perfectly viable.

As long as you are happy to operate within the even greater software constraints than OSX.

fishybusiness

Windows 8 is by far the worst rendition that Microsoft have produced since vista, and before that ME.

Perhaps for a developer, but as a user I quite like it.

The inbuilt pdf reader is the easiest to use I have come across, run that and Office 2013 is a nice solution for reading and writing.

I like the metro interface that integrates the calendar and mail apps, or anything else for that matter.

Tbh, integration seems to be the way forward, comparing Win 8 to the traditional way of seeing and 'doing' computing will always show it to be full of flaws. Looking forward to ways to integrate all of our everyday needs works for me.

prowla

The Windows 8 user interface is an unfinished cack-handed counter-intuitive monstrosity.

The graphics are like the output of a kindegarten school equipped with a set of pastel coloured chalks; there is no attempt to scupture or add texture.

What to click on where with which button, or which keyboard key to press, or where to move your mouse is a disjointed no-mans land somewhere between the needs of a smart phone user and a PC user with a hi-res monitor.

The legacy desktop (or whatever its name is) is missing the Windows key and any apparent means of running a program that doesn't have an icon on the desktop. The desktop icon of the trash can is the highly detailed 3D picture from the Windows 7 desktop, but the menus that appear are plain text on a flat background; there is a disconnect between the two styles.

I keep having to tell myself that it is a real product and not a joke.