ukcps parking ticket

evelyn123

My elederly mum has been given a ticket for parking in a parent and child space in a local shopping centre- she's very anxious and can't afford to pay it- does anyone know if these tickets for parking a a parent and child space are legally enforceable? She was there for about 20minutes. I've spoken to the local city council and they don't seem to know if its actually an offence or not to park in a parent and child space.

bazster

Tell your Mum to calm down and not worry, fake tickets from UKCPS are not enforceable and can be completely ignored.

Unfortunately, assuming your Mum is the registered keeper of the vehicle, she will now get a series of threatening letters. They are designed to intimidate, but can all be ignored.

Be aware that UKCPS' tea-boy trawls these forums looking for people in your situation who he can identify and intimidate further. So, if you come back for more help or reassurance do not post anything which might help to identify you, your Mum or the location where this occurred. And don't reply to any private message unless it's from an established member with hundreds of posts to his/her name.

In the highly unlikely event that your Mum receives real court papers (not meaningless threats of court or draft papers drawn up to intimidate) come back here or go to PePiPoo for help.

SodG24

The quick answer is no - they are not legally enforceable - in fact they aren't even legal !

*** and before the office pleb gets all upset, when I say they aren't legal it's because UKCPS have no interest in the land - they neither own it nor have a lease ( but you know that don't you office pleb ? ) ***

When did she get the ticket and where ?

If she's the registered keeper then she should just ignore everything she gets from UKCPS.

ManxRed

Its most definitely not an offence, so your Mum has not broken any law whatsoever.

Bazster's advice above is spot on.

BASFORDLAD

No it isn't. Ukcps( office manager peter haswell a complete slimeball) can be ignored.

bazster

SodG24 wrote: »

The quick answer is no - they are not legally enforceable - in fact they aren't even legal !

When did she get the ticket, where and who does it say to pay ?

It's UKCPS, so I don't think we want to encourage her to post more details. Also, this does not sound like a good candidate for trial-by-POPLA, so the "when" is not important.

Coupon-mad

Just to mention that the OP could rescue her Mum from the threatograms if she writes a brief letter with her own address at the top, in order to hook the letter-chain in her own direction if Mum would wobble about ignoring scary legal-looking demands.

So, if you do this, just write a really simple letter and say:

'The above ticket was on my car windscreen after shopping in xxxx car park but I don't think the bays were clearly marked and nor is parking in a Parent & Child bay an offence so please cancel the ticket' or words to that effect (without saying who was driving). Do not sign with your normal signature but just print your name and make sure your address is at the top of the letter (no phone number!).

That way then you can just ignore the letters that then come your way, or if the fake ticket was dated October then you could even appeal to POPLA yourself if you want to give it a go and cost this deplorable firm £32+ without any risk.

Tell your Mum you have written and sorted it out.

Or, another alternative! Was she shopping? Go in to the store in VERY assertive mode, with the offending fake PCN and COMPLAIN to the Store Manager about victimising elderly shoppers. She's elderly - and there is a section on ageism in the Equality Act if you're in England/Wales - but is she also disabled, was it that she thought it was a disabled bay? The Equality Act would apply.

Tell him/her that not to make reasonable adjustments for a disabled/elderly person, and/or to harass them with fake fines, is illegal because it'a a breach of the Equality Act 2010.

Tell the Store manager you expect the fake ticket to be cancelled as it has caused your Mum a lot of grief and she's scared to shop there again. If they say 'there's nothing we can do', or 'you'll have to take that up with the Parking company' then politely but sternly ask for the name of the CEO and the Head Office Address because a breach of the Equality Act is a serious matter. Say you will give them once last chance to call Head Office and get this sorted or you will be writing and you are minded to sue and publicise the whole issue if the fake ticket isn't cancelled immediately.

BASFORDLAD

I would go with Coupon-mad on this one

She knows what she is talking about!

bazster

Good stuff coupon-mad, good idea to divert the letters away from Mum without admitting to being the driver.

mikey72

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Just to mention that the OP could rescue her Mum from the threatograms if she writes a brief letter with her own address at the top, in order to hook the letter-chain in her own direction if Mum would wobble about ignoring scary legal-looking demands.

So, if you do this, just write a really simple letter and say:

'The above ticket was on my car windscreen after shopping in xxxx car park but don't think the bays were clearly marked and nor is parking in a Parent & Child bay an offence so please cancel the ticket' or words to that effect (without saying who was driving). Do not sign with your normal signature but just print your name and make sure your address is at the top of the letter (no phone number!).

That way then you can just ignore the letters that then come your way, or if the fake ticket was dated October then you could even appeal to POPLA yourself if you want to give it a go and cost this deplorable firm £32+ without any risk.

Tell your Mum you have written and sorted it out.

Or, another alternative! Was she shopping? Go in to the store in VERY assertive mode, with the offending fake PCN and COMPLAIN to the Store Manager about victimising elderly shoppers. She's elderly - and there is a section on ageism in the Equality Act if you're in England/Wales - but is she also disabled, was it that she thought it was a disabled bay? The Equality Act would apply.

Tell him/her that not to make reasonable adjustments for a disabled/elderly person, and/or to harass them with fake fines, is illegal because it'a a breach of the Equality Act 2010.

Tell the Store manager you expect the fake ticket to be cancelled as it has caused your Mum a lot of grief and she's scared to shop there again. If they say 'there's nothing we can do', or 'you'll have to take that up with the Parking company' then politely but sternly ask for the name of the CEO and the Head Office Address because a breach of the Equality Act is a serious matter. Say you will give them once last chance to call Head Office and get this sorted or you will be writing and you are minded to sue and publicise the whole issue if the fake ticket isn't cancelled immediately.

The op hasn't said her mother is disabled, with a mobility issue.
So, you could sue, but it would rely on you showing that providing a parent and child bay was specifically a reasonable adjustment for being elderly.

Coupon-mad

You can sue for harassment under the Equality Act, it would no longer be about the bay, it would be about unreasonable harassment of an elderly (maybe disabled) person.