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  • PasturesNew
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    I have a gas hob, and energy from gas is cheaper than energy from electricity, so I always do it with the hob rather than the oven.
    Oh, so your oven's not gas too?
  • silvercar
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    Why is it OK to leave an electric oven on, but not an electric hob?

    Is there a difference? Apart from the risk of burning yourself on a hob.

    Maybe hobs are designed to be used with pans on them?

    Or maybe the fan in an oven will disperse the heat, whereas the hob element won't have the heat dispersed.

    :shrugs:
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  • PasturesNew
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    How much???? :)

    I think for the prices I'd want more photos. For the first one a video showing how it fits together.... and for the second one what the rear looks like.

    So many e-commerce retailers simply don't take it seriously do they.
  • PasturesNew
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    silvercar wrote: »
    Is there a difference? Apart from the risk of burning yourself on a hob.

    Maybe hobs are designed to be used with pans on them?

    Or maybe the fan in an oven will disperse the heat, whereas the hob element won't have the heat dispersed.

    :shrugs:
    You can burn yourself on gas. Personally I'd more easily see a red/glowing hob than some blue flames.

    Yeah, maybe hobs need to have the heat taken away else they blow.

    Not all ovens have fans, I've only ever used one fan oven (for 6 months in 2011).
  • vivatifosi
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    How much???? :)

    I think for the prices I'd want more photos. For the first one a video showing how it fits together.... and for the second one what the rear looks like.

    So many e-commerce retailers simply don't take it seriously do they.

    To be fair, it is a website for a retail store, not a true e-commerce retailer. Some of their jewellery is a bit, um, American looking, which I don't like, but they have a couple of ranges that I really like. They have a lot of duty free shops in the Caribbean and Bahamas, which is where I bought mine. It also has the benefit of coming in under my duty free allowance. The piece I bought anyway, which looks nicer in the flesh.
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  • vivatifosi
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    Just watching the Lance Armstrong interview on full on Discovery channel. It is hard to warm to him.
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  • LydiaJ
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    Why is it OK to leave an electric oven on, but not an electric hob?

    Depends what kind of electric hob. The kind I used to have could be hot without being visibly different from when the rings were off.
    Oh, so your oven's not gas too?

    No. New kitchens tend to have gas hob and electric fan oven. The previous owners put a new kitchen in this place fairly recently, and my previous home was built in 2002, so it's a while since I lived anywhere with a gas oven. I'm happy with either kind of oven, but definitely prefer gas for the hob.

    Any time you are trying to heat a specific thing or space and have a choice between gas and electricity, the gas will always do it more cheaply.
    silvercar wrote: »
    Is there a difference? Apart from the risk of burning yourself on a hob.

    Maybe hobs are designed to be used with pans on them?

    Or maybe the fan in an oven will disperse the heat, whereas the hob element won't have the heat dispersed.

    :shrugs:

    The heat from the hob should disperse by convection if there's nothing on it. It may not disperse quite so effectively from an oven because it needs to come out sideways, and convection currents always go upwards. The fan (if there is one) would probably help.
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  • lostinrates
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Just watching the Lance Armstrong interview on full on Discovery channel. It is hard to warm to him.

    I have a very old architectural digest with a feature in his (then? ) home. It was very tasteful and blank. It also made it hard to warm to him. It's notable I remember it as something that made me uncomfortable undefinably. I think it was one of the key reasons I like homes that reflect people...a sort of honesty in surrounding..not trying to be everything to everyone. Tbh. I don't give two hoots about cycling or have an idea of what I think about the punishment or full grasping f the crime. I don 't have an opinion forme about anything apart from the home and how that made me feel.


    Consider...most homes in architectural digest are 'taste white washed' for max readership appeal and nothing personal is left on display, so it must have been something considerable about I that uneared me,




    Edit. Uneared me? What the flip did I mean by that? It's a tough day folks, sorry about the typing.
  • PasturesNew
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    Just watching the Lance Armstrong interview on full on Discovery channel. It is hard to warm to him.
    Yes. Psychopath ..... only 'confessing' as he knows the game's up. Crocodile tears. Every word carefully crafted.... every gesture a film award winner.
  • PasturesNew
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    No. New kitchens tend to have gas hob and electric fan oven.
    I think that might be a feature of the higher price bracket items :)
    Bit of a posh alert maybe.... new builds is a bit of a posh alert in its own right as there's the "new premium".

    I think my oven here is new... it's a Beko, probably £239 (Currys: http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/beko-bd532aw-electric-cooker-white-14402269-pdt.html ). Regular hob and oven. http://www.beko.co.uk/Item/D532
    LydiaJ wrote: »

    Any time you are trying to heat a specific thing or space and have a choice between gas and electricity, the gas will always do it more cheaply.
    What about boilers, where the cost of installing/mtaining the system over X years of lifespan can work out quite a lot?
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