Help with Housing Benefit, 2 bed flat

evenasus

heartbreak_star wrote: »

There's no misinterpretation - what you describe is fraud, even if you think it isn't.

And you do what me and my OH did when he was training - you scrimp and save and don't go out.

HBS x

The sad situation today, is that a lot of the younger generation don't want to stay in and save.
They expect the 'state/council' to fund their accommodation.

samwich1979

This is the exact reason why HB should be stopped for certain groups of young people.

Stay at home and save until you can afford to leave home or even better get a job like everyone else has to.

cutestkids

When I was growing up benefits were for people who had fallen on hard times, lost their job, illness, disability etc,
It would not have occurred to myself or anyone that I grew up with that you would move out of home into your own place without having saved up for it, getting a deposit together etc.

It seems now that it is the norm to expect the government to pay for most if not all of your housing costs and the idea of working full time and paying everything yourself with no help from the taxpayer is completely alien to a lot of todays young people.

I often wonder how as a nation we got to this kind of thinking.

sniggings

cutestkids wrote: »

It seems now that it is the norm to expect the government to pay for most if not all of your housing costs and the idea of working full time and paying everything yourself with no help from the taxpayer is completely alien to a lot of todays young people.

I often wonder how as a nation we got to this kind of thinking.

I can understand you not wanting housing benefit to go to those that can work and choose not to but to add in those that are working and can't afford the rent because the rent is to high and wages low is daft. Rents are now out of control in many areas, only some very deprived areas have rents that are affordable, and even those are high because housing benefits pay them.

Marisco

Why do you need to get a 2 bed flat when there are only the 2 of you? Sounds more like a "want" than a "need". I "want" a Maserati, I've got a Puegeot. Needs must mate

thorsoak

Crollsy - how old are you? And how old is your partner? This will have a bearing on whether or not you are entitled to housing benefit!

Dunroamin

sniggings wrote: »

I can understand you not wanting housing benefit to go to those that can work and choose not to but to add in those that are working and can't afford the rent because the rent is to high and wages low is daft. Rents are now out of control in many areas, only some very deprived areas have rents that are affordable, and even those are high because housing benefits pay them.

Outside central London, most people can afford the rent in a shared flat if they're working full time, even on NMW.

cutestkids

sniggings wrote: »

I can understand you not wanting housing benefit to go to those that can work and choose not to but to add in those that are working and can't afford the rent because the rent is to high and wages low is daft. Rents are now out of control in many areas, only some very deprived areas have rents that are affordable, and even those are high because housing benefits pay them.

The point I was making is that there is a want it now attitude nowadays where the first thought is how much benefit can I get to pay my housing costs, rather than what can I afford in housing costs and how long will it take me to get there.

As a previous poster has said there are plenty of affordable housing options out there but we have as a nation developed a sense of entitlement so instead of using the benefits system as a last resort when things go bad we have a generation who turn to the benefit route

When I was leaving home and setting up for the first time with my partner if either of us had not been working at the time and claiming benefit our plans would have had to be put on hold until such times as our situation changed.

Why can't the poster and his girlfriend get a room in a house share or a bedsit that they can afford rather than go down the I want a 2 bed flat or house and I want someone else to pay for it route.

fawd1

As an alternative, why don't you get a two bed flat and get someone else in on the lease? I appreciate this will put paid to the idea of romps in the kitchen at midnight but you'll still be living together, in a way that you can afford and isn't fraudulent.

tescobabe69

Why on earth would a young couple need two bedrooms ?
When we were younger I could hardly wait long enough to kick the front door shut.
I suppose the OP could stop calling her his girfriend and be a lodger.Or a flatmate "with benefits" as I believe it is known.