Unrest in the Parking industry, Upset from the inside - From Pepipoo

taffy056

bargepole wrote: »

POPLA will only consider an appeal after the PPC in-house "appeal" procedure has been used and the appeal rejected.

I understand that, but that wasn't my question to ppc_guy. I want to know if after a rejection of an appeal to the parking company, and the person wanting to go to popla whether the ppc will have an option to drop the claim rather than pay the £32 to go to popla?

bargepole

taffy056 wrote: »

I understand that, but that wasn't my question to ppc_guy. I want to know if after a rejection of an appeal to the parking company, and the person wanting to go to popla whether the ppc will have an option to drop the claim rather than pay the £32 to go to popla?

AIUI, the appeal rejection letter from the PPC must contain the details of how to appeal to POPLA, which can be done online, as soon as the letter is received.

So if they don't want it to go to POPLA, they may as well grant the appeal and save the £32.

Coupon-mad

HO87 wrote: »

The BPA are trying to bend their head around two of mine at the moment but have gone awfully quiet over the last couple of weeks. My respondent at the DVLA (I suspect the same person as you've been in contact with C_M) has endeavoured to bat mine back but has just had another one in return. I have another complaint in the works but it's a bit more of a biggy and I'm still putting the documents together.

Yes, same person I believe. Last week that person tried to bat back one of my complaints (I made about 10 separate complaints about different firms' websites) by saying the website I was reporting 'clearly showed' the firm worked for Councils as well as in their private capacity.

I nearly fell off my chair because the firm in question most certainly DOES NOT and that was one of the points I was making, that the website was horrendously misleading and said the rk was liable. If the DVLA can fall for such a load of tosh (which to me was OBVIOUS in lots of ways) then what hope is there?

So of course the ball is firmly back in the DVLA's court over that one (along with the other 8 or 9 I complained about; all AOS members).

bazster

ppc_guy wrote: »

Popla is not a requirement for anything. An independent appeals service is

Excellent point.

geoffky

esmerobbo wrote: »

It would seem UKCPS may fail the audit!

Are 'Parking Charges' legal?
Yes. Once our contractual warning signs are erected and an authority agreement signed with the landowner or their agent we can legally issue invoices (parking charge notices). It is legal to levy a parking charge which has been notified (by our signs) to motorists. By parking on land, we patrol, drivers (and, under the proposed new Freedom Bill, the Registered Keeper) enter into a contract as indicated on our signs. Motorists do have a legal right of appeal and the parking charge notice gives full details of this.

They are joking...appeals! people reading this will think that there is a system in place that is fair....
They are there to milk as much from the public as you can otherwise you would be out of business.
They suffer no loss with someone over staying a few minutes but try and scam a sum of money out of people who can ill afford it...How can i enter a contract that i do not know the full extent of or even agree to...There is no loss to them as a company and this has been ruled on in the court.. They are a snakes...

taffy056

geoffky wrote: »

They are joking...appeals! people reading this will think that there is a system in place that is fair....
They are there to milk as much from the public as you can otherwise you would be out of business.
They suffer no loss with someone over staying a few minutes but try and scam a sum of money out of people who can ill afford it...How can i enter a contract that i do not know the full extent of or even agree to...There is no loss to them as a company and this has been ruled on in the court.. They are a snakes...

There will be one (allegedly) in place on 1st October called POPLA if it passed you by

torontoboy45

taffy056 wrote: »

There will be one (allegedly) in place on 1st October called POPLA if it passed you by

I've been in 'thick' mode for most of today, so let's see if toronto 'brain of an amoeba' boy has got this right;

1. a ticket is issued. a PPC appeal is made.

FAIL.

2. a POPLA appeal is made.

FAIL.

the POPLA adjudication is binding apon the PPC but not the driver/RK.

driver/RK now sits back and refuses point-blank to pay.

the PPC will have to think long and hard when it receives the driver's appeal. should they allow it and avoid the possibility of an adverse POPLA ruling, which would leave them over £30 lighter? or should they tough it out, hope for a favourable POPLA ruling and then run off to county court, squealing 'look your honour! POPLA says we were right all along. show us the money!' ?

there are dolts, half-brains and blithering idiots online but today, compared to me, they all seem like rocket scientists.

taffy056

It makes no difference the adverse popla appeal, they all cost £32 no matter if its win or lose. If it went to court after a refusal to pay, you could argue yes it lost at appeal you honour, but look at the process here, there is no ability to appeal on that I didn't see the signs, or the fact that its an unfair penalty, or that my P&D ticket was on the left hand side of the dash instead of the right etc etc

torontoboy45

taffy056 wrote: »

It makes no difference the adverse popla appeal, they all cost £32 no matter if its win or lose. If it went to court after a refusal to pay, you could argue yes it lost at appeal you honour, but look at the process here, there is no ability to appeal on that I didn't see the signs, or the fact that its an unfair penalty, or that my P&D ticket was on the left hand side of the dash instead of the right etc etc

can the PPC add the £32.40 to 'the oustanding amount owed'?and the court would disallow any attempt by the PPC to recover the £32.40 from the defendant?

taffy056

torontoboy45 wrote: »

can the PPC add the £32.40 to 'the oustanding amount owed'?and the court would disallow any attempt by the PPC to recover the £32.40 from the defendant?

I doubt it, they are different processes. But let's face it they can trump up other charges instead, for example the admin costs will be £32 more than Pre popla , they will try and offload it to the victim somehow or another, just wait now that they will trump up their charges from circa £60 to £100 because the bpa has given them the go ahead on that level. As HO87 says the greatest coincidence in history is about to happen.