Alternatives to Gloss Paint on Woodwork

lisa701

We painted all the woodwork in our house (door frames, skirting etc.) with Dulux white gloss paint, only to find a few months later its gone a nasty yellow colour (we are not smokers). I've been told this has happened to quite a few people now, and I'm reluctant to go to the expense of doing it again only for the same to happen.

Does anyone know of a white gloss which doesnt turn yellow after a few months? Alternatively, what other options do I have for painting the woodwork? I thought about coloured gloss but its a lot more expensive than white!

Thanks

Leif

Dulux claim to have solved the problem, but I do not believe them until I see an example. The obvious solution is to use water based paint, as this is an artifact of some if not all oil based paints. It arose from new EU regulations. Something like "White paint in the land of the smelly English shall go yellow", errr, well, sort of. Actually they restricted or banned some ingredients, making life hard for the makers.

I tried Ronseal Diamond White, glossy (not high gloss), and very attractive, pure white too. I found it hard to apply without runs, but I was new to painting then. There are other makes too, I'm sure someone will recommend good ones. Sikkens Satura BL (water based, not oil) is said to be good. I tried the Dulux, yuck, very thin, awful.

Or you can go for a satin oil based paint, which yellows more slowly than gloss. Sikkens Satura oil based paint (similar name to the water based) does not use linseed oil, and is said not to yellow, or hardly at all. I applied some 1 year ago, and it is still pure white, very nice. But it is low sheen. I think it is great.

The problem with water based paint is that it dries quickly, and does not spread so well, so you may not get such a good finish. That said, I did like the Ronseal.

searchlight123

we had the same problem.
redecorated using johnstone water based brilliant white gloss as it was recommended by our local specialist paint store. so far (1 year) it remains as white as the day it was applied.

leveller2911

We used Oil based Eggshell on our paintwork.Its hardwearing and has a semi shine.As Leif states water based paints on woodwork takes experience to get right.For us mere mortals it tends to dry far too quickly, difficult to get rid of brush marks due to paint drying to quickly you end up with a dry edge. That said its easier to clean your brushes afterwards........
I would give oil based eggshell a go as its easier to get a good finish.

firsttimetom

I quite like Dulux's Water based Satin - it did take some getting used to, but it looks really good.

Water Based paints shouldn't yellow either.

wrightk

we did our whole house woodwork with dulux too. all went yellow. so disheartening. then when we moved i vouched never ever to use dulux again. so we went for crown, its stayed white and looks really good.

another point to mention is not to ever get quick drying formula, and to store the gloss correctly to try to avoid it getting a thick film on it (store upside down if you can). ive been in situations before where a thick film was on the surface so i peeled it and painted as usual, in a few weeks it was yellow,must be something to do with the oils

budgetdiyer

We had the same with our gloss work (we used crown), its particularly bad in areas that get little natural light (ie north facing rooms).

I'm gradually re-doing the house using water based paints, with no yellowing in sight yet. The water based paints don't seem to have quite the shame sheen as the oil based gloss but imo that gives a more modern finish anyway.

I (well my 9 month old in his walker) have found the finish to be very hardwearing too!

lisa701

Thanks everyone.

Think I might look for some water based paint and give it a try in those areas that are not so on show first as my painting skills are not the best so I need a bit of practice!

I'd heard the Dulux problem had been resolved but I really don't fancy trying it again and finding I have to paint it all for a third time.

Thanks again

Leif

Another point, water based paint is not as hard wearing as gloss oil based. That said, silk oil based paint is not as hard either, but I have no I idea how it compares to water based.

wrightk wrote: »

we did our whole house woodwork with dulux too. all went yellow. so disheartening. then when we moved i vouched never ever to use dulux again. so we went for crown, its stayed white and looks really good.

Apparently most if not all makers have had problems, though Dulux might have been worst. The MD of the company I used to work for had his entire house painted in Dulux, it went brown, and Dulux paid for a complete repaint ... in Crown paint.

suisidevw

Haven't read the whole thread, but for woodwork, I'd use an eggshell all day everyday, looks better and doesn't yellow!

jap200

Take a look here at my 5-year update on yellowing of solvent-based vs water-based paints for wood: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4055437