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Residential Energy Saving Device.

wongawonga
wongawonga Posts: 387 Forumite
edited 23 September 2012 at 4:44AM in Energy
A Momentis Rep he said he was a Senior Director. ( They Are New To the UK Network Marketing Company) has recommended one of these gizmos to save money.

http://momentisunitedkingdom.co.uk/services/energy-management-systems/

Anyone got one ? Do they save money ?

Costs are 24 months at £12:95
3 instalments of £89:95
One off payment £229:95

Comments

  • Already an interesting thread here on this subject https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3997531 it appears it was being offered as a business cost saving device also.
  • Cardew
    Cardew Posts: 29,064 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Rampant Recycler
    edited 23 September 2012 at 10:00AM
    Here we go again!

    This is one of a long line of Power Factor(PF) correction devices that have been marketed, all over the world, for years.

    They rely on the fact that in large commercial concerns - factories etc NOT small businesses etc - PF correction is important as they are billed for electricity in a completely different manner to domestic and small business customers.

    PF correction is an extremely complex subject but the bottom line is these devices do not save money for domestic customers because we are metered and billed for the kWh we use. This article explains a little more.

    http://open4energy.com/forum/home/scam/energymizer-ems-momentis

    If these saved money, do you not think the Energy saving Trust(EST), WHICH or indeed the Government would be endorsing them?
  • pooch
    pooch Posts: 828 Forumite
    Snake oil!

    ... but you can't blame the director/salesman for trying his best to flog his wares.
  • penrhyn
    penrhyn Posts: 15,215 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 23 September 2012 at 3:15PM
    Probably an Asp, that's' what did for Cleopatra! Those Egyptians loved their Tetrahedrons.
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
  • If they recruited enough interested applicants in the free to put your name down for the Momentis pre launch stage they could call themselves Senior Directors.Lots of peeps were claiming the title and promoting joining them. Its just another name for a rep with a team of some sort. They are not directors as you would expect normally.

    Since they have all been asked to pay virtually £200 to promote a few lame products,and a monthly fee in some cases a lot have gone off the radar.
  • Thanks Cardew for the info.
  • tlh858
    tlh858 Posts: 217 Forumite
    From their website' 5 key functions'.

    Magnetic phase balancing of voltage to reduce demand, noise and waste in loads.
    Only applicable if you have a 3 phase supply. More than 99% of houses do not.
    Even if you do, it won't reduce your electricity consumption. Phase balancing is done for other reasons.

    Harmonic filtering of non-power currents to reduce the billed Kilowatt Hour demand.
    Presumably they are referring to reactive power, which is only applicable if your metering equipment actually measures this, and you are billed for it. Domestic properties are not.

    Transient voltage conversion by capturing surges and redistributing as usable power.
    Trash written by some marketing person who didn't understand what they were writing.

    Resonance-free power factor correction to reduce reactive non-power demands.
    Totally irrelevant for domestic supplies.

    Reduced load currents resulting in reduced peak power demand subsequent charges.
    Current can be reduced for resistive loads by reducing the supply voltage. However this won't save any money. It just means your kettle takes longer to boil, electric heaters give out less heat etc.
    Lowering the voltage won't make any difference to most electronic equipment because it is usually designed to operate on a wide range of voltages. If the voltage reduces, the current it draws increases to compensate - the actual power used is the same.
    Lowering the voltage to a motor will certainly cause things to happen. However dramatically reducing the output torque and causing it to overheat are probably not what you want.
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