IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).

POFA: What is a Parking Charge?

Back to the good old Protection of Freedoms Act.

It seems that our friends, the Private Ticketing Companies, like to dish out their spurious charges for activities which are not necessarily "parking". The POFA will make the registered keeper of a vehicle liable if the driver is not identified. But this is specifically in terms of "parking charges". So, what is a "parking charge"? Lets look at Schedule 4 of the POFA to attempt to find out.

In 2 (1), it says
“parking charge”—
(a) in the case of a relevant obligation arising under the terms of a relevant contract, means a sum in the nature of a fee or charge, and
(b) in the case of a relevant obligation arising as a result of a trespass or other tort, means a sum in the nature of damages,
however the sum in question is described;

...

“relevant contract” means a contract (including a contract arising only when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land) between the driver and a person who is—
(a) the owner or occupier of the land; or
(b) authorised, under or by virtue of arrangements made by the owner or occupier of the land, to enter into a contract with the driver requiring the payment of parking charges in respect of the parking of the vehicle on the land;

...


“relevant obligation” means—
(a) an obligation arising under the terms of a relevant contract; or
(b) an obligation arising, in any circumstances where there is no relevant contract, as a result of a trespass or other tort committed by parking the vehicle on the relevant land;

Picking all that apart with all its circular references, it seems any contract and obligation are only in place if a vehicle is actually parked. This would surely make all attempts to ticket for activities such as drop-off, pick-up, load and unload, turn round, drive through outside the scope of POFA (whether or not they were in the terms of the alleged contract, as it's not "parking"), and thus RK liability does not apply.

Would that mean, then, that attempts to threaten the registered keeper with liability for these non-parking activities would be misleadig at best, unlawful at worst? I am thinking particularly of airports where private ticketing companies have been brought in to try to force people to pay to park, even for quick activities like dropping people off? These people try to say their invoices are Parking Charge Notices, yet they don't seem to fall into the definition of "parking charges" as set out in the POFA (quite apart from the fact that you cannot possibly read and accept the Ts&Cs of the "contract" as you drive past the cluttered and closely typed sign on your way into the airport).

Comments

  • HO87
    HO87 Posts: 4,296 Forumite
    In simple terms, yes. However, it would mean that invoices raised for these sort of reasons would just fall outside of the ambit of POFA. I'd doubt for less than a nanosecond that it would mean that incidents like this would be ignored. It would be useful to be able to catch invoicers out attempting to use a POFA procedure in trying to enforce in circumstances like this. With this in mind one wonders quite how companies like APCOA particularly who enforce against breaches caused by moving traffic at Luton Airport will be able to continue.
    My very sincere apologies for those hoping to request off-board assistance but I am now so inundated with requests that in order to do justice to those "already in the system" I am no longer accepting PM's and am unlikely to do so for the foreseeable future (August 2016). :(

    For those seeking more detailed advice and guidance regarding small claims cases arising from private parking issues I recommend that you visit the Private Parking forum on PePiPoo.com
  • esmerobbo
    esmerobbo Posts: 4,979 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    No doubt the BPA used the argument that if you could not enforce payment for parking then anyone could simply park and not pay.
    I think their argument was aimed at protecting pay and display car parks. As such the charges recoverable would be the actual charge incurred and any cost in admin.
    I doubt that the BPA pressed too much on the enforcement of charges for breaching car park conditions.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.8K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.5K Life & Family
  • 256K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.