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Virgin Broadband - do i have cable/adsl already?

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  • diamonds
    diamonds Posts: 6,048 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    Post Office install is £60 with 30 day contract at £13.25, then you can move to anyone or get locked into contract for free install.
    SO... now England its the Scots turn to say dont leave the UK, stay in Europe with us in the UK, dont let the tories fool you like they did us with empty lies... You will be leaving the UK aswell as Europe ;)
  • diamonds wrote: »
    Cheap BT install from one of thier network users, Talk Talk, post office....


    oh no! another option.,:rotfl:

    my dads on talk talk - seems cheap..

    but is it cheaper to get a BT landline installed just to get talk talk etc...instead of continuing to reactivate the existing virgin?!
  • diamonds wrote: »
    Post Office install is £60 with 30 day contract at £13.25, then you can move to anyone or get locked into contract for free install.

    Ok, lots to look into now

    i thought modern life was easy.... but i thinks its just like BLUR said - MODERN LIFE IS RUBBISH
    :D
  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    What the OP has is a TV/Broadband Isolator next to a Cable phone line.Both TV & Broadband on cable are provided via a CoAxial cable.
    Siting the 2 boxes side by side was common in cable installations.On the outside of the house you'll likely have a gray box,called an ETB.This is where the internal cables swap to external & travel back to the street cabinet.
    The OP does NOT have an ADSL connection & can ONLY get broadband via VM & a SACM (Stand Alone Cable Modem) &,as said before,you cannot have any broadband on a cable phone line due to the way they work.
    I suspect the blue wire is a Ethernet cable as the Ethernet cables that came with the NTL 250 SACM's were blue & USB were yellow.
    web photo;
    296i_3-modems-ntl250-get-net-ga324wa-intel-any-point-for-sale_1.jpg

    Isolator & phone point;
    isolator.jpg
    Phone socket is on the left.this is one of the isolators that came in around 2001.
  • Buzby
    Buzby Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    edited 18 September 2012 at 8:41PM
    The coaxial is the primary cable feed to your house - before it enters it will have the phone twisted pair with it - this is then split off to a Telephone Master socket, the colours will be black or white - not blue. The telephone type wire is for telephone only.

    Co-axial provides TV AND broadband, a splitter allows this to feed the TV box, and the modem.

    As for dumping BB to get a crappy ADSL connection is a bad move. ADSL is vastly inferior and a kludge to make BB work. The cable connection is acknowledged as the only way to go - as it provides a better connection and contention rates. Some folk would kill for a cable link....
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    Buzby wrote: »
    You can have BB with no other service, but if you want TV, phone service is charged for whether you want it or not.

    But Virgin Media Cable do offer TV only without line rental.

    http://store.virginmedia.com/digital-tv/compare-tv/tv-m.html
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    johnny_c wrote: »
    oh no! another option.,:rotfl:

    my dads on talk talk - seems cheap..

    but is it cheaper to get a BT landline installed just to get talk talk etc...instead of continuing to reactivate the existing virgin?!


    No need to get a new BT line to have TT. TT will arrange installation of a line themselves. If you take out a new BT Line minimum term of 12 month applies.Thats why Post Office (No Minimum Term) is so popular.
  • spike7451
    spike7451 Posts: 6,944 Forumite
    Buzby wrote: »
    The coaxial is the primary cable feed to your house - before it enters it will have the phone twisted pair with it - this is then split off to a Telephone Master socket, the colours will be black or white - not blue. The telephone type wire is for telephone only.

    Co-axial provides TV AND broadband, a splitter allows this to feed the TV box, and the modem.

    Incorrect.
    Telephone colors in the siamese drop cable are blue & orange twisted pair,when two or more lines were common we went to three twisted pair & even four twisted pair,with green & brown,cable have never used black/white pairs.
    A splitter does not normally feed the TV or broadband,this is done via an Isolator which has 2 TV/DATA ports on it,one for the TV,one for the broadband.
    A splitter would normally be fitted in the ETB to split the incoming CoAx feed off to two seperate locations,at each location you would find an Isolator,with either a single TV/DATA port ot a double,the un-used port capped with a 75ohm terminator cap.
    Sometimes you may have a splitter fitted after the Isolator,like in the case of an on street terrace when an ETB can't be fitted,but the should always be ab Isolator fitted to protect the network & customers premise from power surges/lightning strike ect.

    Single isolator;
    VQ601LC-SCC.jpg

    Treble isolator;
    vq643.jpg
    Introduced for V+/TIVO.
  • diamonds
    diamonds Posts: 6,048 Forumite
    Debt-free and Proud!
    Topcashback £60.60 with TT install free
    SO... now England its the Scots turn to say dont leave the UK, stay in Europe with us in the UK, dont let the tories fool you like they did us with empty lies... You will be leaving the UK aswell as Europe ;)
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