Advice needed please - 4 year old let out of school alone

Mindless_Clone

Let's not turn the thread into a war of words. Have some respect for the OP who has actually got a really good cause for complaint.

Yes, there is a difference between the cognitive ability of a child just turned 4 to one who is almost 5. Is it relevant in this case? Well, in my opinion not really, since the school should not have let any child out of the classroom until his/her parent or guardian was there collect them. This isn't just health and safety gone mad, or over protectiveness or something wooly; it's basic child protection (which, believe it or not, goes way beyond making sure you're kids are not picked up by perverts) and something everyone is responsible for. The school are clearly negligent if this has happened and they need to be aware so they can address this before a small incident turns into a major tragedy.

OP, please do update us with how this is going. If you spoke to the head and what they said.

Poppie68

Azari wrote: »

Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

Firstly you belittle the perfectly reasonable concern that a mother has for her very young child.

Then you ignore the perfectly reasonable response to you ill advised post, that attempted to remind you that children are very different at that age, in favour of bull headedly dismissing the OP's concerned.

And now you have the brass neck to complain at others for 'putting people down'.

I feel very sorry for your children if you are as close minded in dealing with them as you are here and if you really cannot see that different children develop differently and have different needs - especially comparing a child who has just turned four with one who is just about to turn five.

Firstly how did i belittle the OP??
Secondly i wasn't complaining about 'others' just you. You took it to a personnel level something i wouldn't of done.
Obviously putting other peoples parenting skills down is something you thrive on ...
Thirdly you dared to go there again about my children..dont' feel sorry for my girls i can assure you they need no sympathy from anyone and especially not from a vile person like yourself.

I wont be reading or replying to anymore of your self serving gibberish, but still feel free to try to belittle me if it makes you feel like a better person.

Azari

Mindless_Clone wrote: »

Let's not turn the thread into a war of words.

Good point.

Actually, I think I can see where Poppie68 is coming from.

It's just that any half decent teacher will be aware of which children are a little more timid than the others and may need a little more attention or reassurance.

Obviously in matters of basic safety and protection all the children should get equal treatment.

Azari

Poppie68 wrote: »

Firstly how did i belittle the OP??
Secondly i wasn't complaining about 'others' just you. You took it to a personnel level something i wouldn't of done.
Obviously putting other peoples parenting skills down is something you thrive on ...
Thirdly you dared to go there again about my children..dont' feel sorry for my girls i can assure you they need no sympathy from anyone and especially not from a vile person like yourself.

I wont be reading or replying to anymore of your self serving gibberish, but still feel free to try to belittle me if it makes you feel like a better person.

Actually, as you can see above, I was more interested in reaching an accommodation with your views.

But you are obviously a very angry person operating on a hair trigger so your decision not to respond further is probably sensible.

Poppie68

Azari wrote: »

Actually, as you can see above, I was more interested in reaching an accommodation with your views.

But you are obviously a very angry person operating on a hair trigger so your decision not to respond further is probably sensible.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Took as while but we got there in the end.
Im not an angry person at all, i just worked hard as a parent with a husband who was in the army for 25 years to bring my children up to be decent hardworking human beings, i am so proud of all of them.

Yes i did read and reply to your post....my problem is not having a lot of will power.

Azari

Poppie68 wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Took as while but we got there in the end.
Im not an angry person at all, i just worked hard as a parent with a husband who was in the army for 25 years to bring my children up to be decent hardworking human beings, i am so proud of all of them.

Yes i did read and reply to your post....my problem is not having a lot of will power.

And I'm afraid I sometimes overreact and go into windup mode.

I'm sure you're a perfectly good mother and have excellent reason to be proud of your children. (And husband, for that matter.)

Idiophreak

Azari wrote: »

It's just that any half decent teacher will be aware of which children are a little more timid than the others and may need a little more attention or reassurance.

...but then you wouldn't expect any half decent teacher to release a child without a parent there - whether that child was 4, 4 and a half, or 5 for that matter.

I read Poppie68 as getting at the point that it doesn't matter if the child's the youngest, oldest or middle child in the class - it's unacceptable, whatever their age.

Azari

Idiophreak wrote: »

...but then you wouldn't expect any half decent teacher to release a child without a parent there - whether that child was 4, 4 and a half, or 5 for that matter.

I read Poppie68 as getting at the point that it doesn't matter if the child's the youngest, oldest or middle child in the class - it's unacceptable, whatever their age.

Yes, we had agreed on that.

We were really talking at cross purposes, I'm afraid.

Poppie68

And we are all friends now, but maybe we could be classed as less mature than a 4 year old.

I can totally understand where the OP is coming from, but i think the best thing maybe at this stage is to have a word about the incident with the teacher and leave it at that just monitor the situation.
Teachers jobs these days seem so much harder than when i was at school, some of the parents from infants up to secondary can be very agressive and abusive towards them, i can't ever remember happening when mine were growing up. Im a strong believer in letting the children find their own way when they start school, they will build confidence and let the teachers get on with helping to them achieve this. If any problems arise and parents feel it maybe detrimental to their children step in and discuss....not make a nusiance of yourselves though as one poster suggested
Maybe im right maybe im wrong but this is what i believe.

Lou67

I have to admit, I would have gone mad if my daughter had been let out on her own that young. I didn't let my daughter walk home alone until she was 13! (Bit over protective I know!) :rotfl: Seriously though, no matter how mature or not mature a child is; 4 is too young to be left to stand there. I would complain for sure.

I do agree though that a child just turned 4 can be considerably more behind a child who is nearly 5, but I agree that every child is as important as the next. Glad you guys sorted it out.